Line 6 HX One

roberty · March 8

I got one of these in the end. Haven't had a chance to plug it in yet though. So much going on atm

Fez · March 18

Does the HX one allow more than one effect at once or is it just an updated m5 with one effect at a time? Looks like a good bit of kit though.

chrisj1602 · March 18

Fez said:

Does the HX one allow more than one effect at once or is it just an updated m5 with one effect at a time? Looks like a good bit of kit though.

One at a time like the M5, but the Flux switch allows you to change parameters, so you can get two variations of the one effect.

ragingben · March 18

I'm seriously thinking about ordering a HX One to run in 4 cable method, but I've been reading up a bit and there seems to be quite a lot of users experiencing a couple of issues. The first is that the One adds a lot of additional noise and also changes the tone a bit when bypassed. The second is that MIDI thru is not passing the data on correctly (or at all). Does anyone on here have any of these issues. I don't trust TGP these days!

chrisj1602 · March 18

ragingben said:

I'm seriously thinking about ordering a HX One to run in 4 cable method, but I've been reading up a bit and there seems to be quite a lot of users experiencing a couple of issues. The first is that the One adds a lot of additional noise and also changes the tone a bit when bypassed. The second is that MIDI thru is not passing the data on correctly (or at all). Does anyone on here have any of these issues. I don't trust TGP these days!

I’m only using mine into the front of my amp but no noise issues or change in tone that I’ve noticed. I don’t use MIDI so can’t comment on that.

ragingben · March 18

@chrisj1602 thanks for the info. Are you using the DSP buffered bypass?

EricTheWeary · March 18

chrisj1602 said:

Fez said:

Does the HX one allow more than one effect at once or is it just an updated m5 with one effect at a time? Looks like a good bit of kit though.

One at a time like the M5, but the Flux switch allows you to change parameters, so you can get two variations of the one effect.

@Fez From what I remember of the Studio Rats video there is a boost parameter to some of the effects so in effect you get a second effect at the same time - as long as that effect is boost. And as said the Flux gives you a variation.

https://youtu.be/axV--WeMH-g?si=yMC8DDfzAJxWiPE-

chrisj1602 · March 18

ragingben said:

@chrisj1602 thanks for the info. Are you using the DSP buffered bypass?

However it came out of the box!

english_bob · March 19

ragingben said:

MIDI thru is not passing the data on correctly (or at all).

The M5 also has this issue (although it doesn't claim to have MIDI thru, just a very basic MIDI out capability). The workaround is to have the pedal last in line if you're daisy-chaining MIDI pedals, or to get a MIDI splitter so that MIDI messages never need to go through the HX One.

Admittedly, both options potentially involve a bit of re-wiring of your pedalboard and maybe a bit of financial outlay (MIDI cables and splitters aren't all that expensive), but they're simple and quick to implement, and it's likely that if the issue is firmware-fixable it'll be done in fairly short order.

ragingben · March 22

I pulled the trigger on a HX One and spent some time with it today. I think I like it, but I'm still on the fence!

I really like the way it works and the whole UX is great and the unit itself feels solid.

Sound wise it's pretty good - I haven't heard anything earth shattering, but everything has been decent to be fair. The sheer amount of effects is overwhelming and I'm surprised how many parameters each algorithm has.

Running it in 4CM with the insert loop and my Rockerverb effects loop hasn't gone as well as I hoped, it definitely adds noise to signal there's no doubt about it. It's just as others have reported online (https://line6.com/support/topic/67654-hx-one-noise-issue). I spent a bit of time faffing with settings and cables but I couldn't remove it. It's dead silent in the Rockerverb loop or in front, but not using the insert loop to do both at the same time. This is a shame because it means I've got to either put up with extra noise, just run it in the loop which reduces its versatility, or just run it in front which is probably what I'll end up doing as I'll use more of the FX this way.

MIDI wise I was also a little thrown, I was expecting PC 0 to bypass the HX One and 1-127 to select presets. This isn't the case, 0-127 are all presets. This makes changing patches a pain unless you can send CC messages (CC 4 controls bypass, 0-63 off, 64-127 on). A work around seems to be setting up a dummy preset with the mix down to 0, but this is a real shame IMO. Luckily I can send CC, so when I have a patch where I want an effect from the HX One I send it's PC for the preset followed by CC 4 set to 127. This changes the patch then ensures it's not bypassed. When I don't want a preset active on the HX One I send CC 4 set to 0 to bypass whichever preset is currently running on the HX One. This works and is OK, but it would have been so much easier for everyone if Line 6 just reserved PC 0 as a bypass preset.

All in all it is probably a keeper, I still think it's good value for money. It definitely fulfills the Swiss army knife cliche but it's just a shame it has a couple of things that hold it back from being outstanding. I would be wary of it if you intend to buy one to use in 4CM using the insert loop. The way I've hooked it in to my rig with the Bright Onion patch bay allows me to easily route it through the amps FX loop when I want to scratch the itch, it's just such as shame the insert loop on the HX One didn't work out.

Edit - after playing for a few days. I'm loving the HX One. There's actually some amazing effects on there. The Adriatic Delay is excellent and a lot of the reverbs are really solid. The Script Logo Phaser is a really good model (as is the Small Stone model... I can't remember the name), the trems are deep and the flux control is really a game changer. I'd written it off as a gimmick but it works really well and is similar to the Morph control on the Kemper.

Fez · June 9

I also joined the he one club. I have barely scratched the surface of of its capabilities yet but I have it in 4 cable configuration with my Laney loud pedal. There doesn't seem to be any noise so perhaps line 6 have fixed that.

I am new to 4 cable method so I have a question about it. Can other pedals be placed in the loop? I had been using a spark mini boost and a couple of other pedals in the loop of the loud pedal and would like to have at least the boost in the loop.

Deft · June 19

Bit of a PSA, Peach Guitars are knocking these out for £249 - bargain

The flux control is indeed great, even just to use as a simple snapshot changer (which is quite fiddly on the Stomp)

HT986M2 · June 20

So I stumbled across a Phil McKnight video covering this. I was pretty taken aback when he sampled the 'Line 6 Distortion' model. It sounded huge. Scooped, but huge.

3:50ish

Can anyone confirm if that is legit, or does it sound a bit 'meh' in-person? It does leave me wondering if the overdrive effects in this would justify having one to replace a few stand-alone OD pedals in front of the amp, and another one in the loop for time-based effects.

chrisj1602 · June 20

HT986M2 said:

So I stumbled across a Phil McKnight video covering this. I was pretty taken aback when he sampled the 'Line 6 Distortion' model. It sounded huge. Scooped, but huge.

3:50ish

Can anyone confirm if that is legit, or does it sound a bit 'meh' in-person? It does leave me wondering if the overdrive effects in this would justify having one to replace a few stand-alone OD pedals in front of the amp, and another one in the loop for time-based effects.

You’d be better buying a HX Stomp or HX Effects if you want set up like that.

I like the Helix drives personally, and the fuzzes too.

Deft · June 20

John Cordy has done a few videos on the HX drives:

For what you describe though an HX Stomp in 4 cable method would probably make more sense

menamestom · June 20

Random question - How is the tuner on this?

Is it easily accessible and reasonable easy to see? I'm thinking of going back from the TC world (Plethora X3), to this, but the tuner on the Plethora is great.

Deft · June 20

menamestom said:

Random question - How is the tuner on this?

Is it easily accessible and reasonable easy to see? I'm thinking of going back from the TC world (Plethora X3), to this, but the tuner on the Plethora is great.

It's easy to see, the screen is black and white so pretty high contrast. The footswitch lights also give you a left and right bracket.

However you have to press and hold both footswitches to access it which is not so easy, unless you get an external footswitch to use as a dedicated tuner switch.

thomasw88 · June 20

menamestom said:

Random question - How is the tuner on this?

Is it easily accessible and reasonable easy to see? I'm thinking of going back from the TC world (Plethora X3), to this, but the tuner on the Plethora is great.

No it's not easy to get to. You have to hold the two buttons down from what I remember. When I had mine, I kept a TU3 on the board..

chrisj1602 · June 20

thomasw88 said:

menamestom said:

Random question - How is the tuner on this?

Is it easily accessible and reasonable easy to see? I'm thinking of going back from the TC world (Plethora X3), to this, but the tuner on the Plethora is great.

No it's not easy to get to. You have to hold the two buttons down from what I remember. When I had mine, I kept a TU3 on the board..

I also kept separate tuner, PolyTune in my case. If you’re gigging I think it’s advisable.

Fez · June 20

Deft said:

Bit of a PSA, Peach Guitars are knocking these out for £249 - bargain

The flux control is indeed great, even just to use as a simple snapshot changer (which is quite fiddly on the Stomp)

Got mine from Andertons for the same price, partly why it won over the plethorax3 as that went up a tenner the same day.

I am using it 4 cable config with the Laney loudpedal with a flashback 2 and spark mini boos also in the loop.
As others have mentioned the tuner could be a bit of a faff in the heat of battle so I have a korg mini pitch black first in line.

What I have found is that the Rams head muff model works better with the Loudpedal than a real stompbox so I can have fuzz on the couple of songs I need it for.

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