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Personally, I prefer the feel of R0's but they all look awful due to the old clownburst
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
I think there are two main differences with the regular factory guitars.
The first is that they are not weight relieved. Getting lightweight mahogany that makes a body as thick as a Les Paul's a bearable weight is not easy. They save the good stuff for the Custom Shop guitars, and make holes in the body on the factory ones to make them lighter. If you want a genuinely solid body LP that doesn't weigh a tonne then you need to go Custom Shop.
The other difference is the neck tenon. The Custom Shop guitars have historically had a longer neck tenon like the original 50's guitars had. The factory guitars have a shorter neck tenon. Opinion differs wildly as to how much difference this makes. Some will say that the long tenon guitars sound a lot better, others argue that it is snake oil and it doesn't make any difference.
Apart from those two, I think the main differences are cosmetic. They may have different pickups, but you can swap those if you need to.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
See, that's why I was confused. I'd searched for a Gibson R8 and R9 and could only find stuff from people who knew what they were talking about, talking to other people who knew what they were talking about.
However, when I search for 58, bingo, answers came there by the bucketload.
I am now educated. No chance whatsoever of one finding itself in my hands (waaaay outside my budgets, and I'd have a 335 before I'd have a lester), but at least I know what one is now.
Thank you for that.
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There's obviously a selection process based on the cosmetic figuring of the maple cap but nowhere except in the minds of people who paid the extra grand is there any belief that the wood used on Historics somehow makes a better Les Paul than a Standard or Traditional.
There's obviously a selection process based on the cosmetic figuring of the maple cap but nowhere except in the minds of people who paid the extra grand is there any belief that the wood used on Historics somehow makes a better Les Paul than a Standard or Traditional.
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One piece backs, better figures and lighter too. I had a few Standards before switching to my R6.
I don't think people are that evil on this forum...
http://www.ginoguitars.com/en/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=601&gclid=Cj0KEQjwyoCrBRCl-aa97pKX_t8BEiQAbrs_9NvOop3RwSAFlr-bY-y9X84l14ly3qFt-2gu_0OhgFwaAhUn8P8HAQ&zenid=0b8rbe27f6u3k3t5319l4nrrc3
I researched this for YEARS.......I was curious about all that was said about the HISTORICS, by the fans I might add.
after a while I could not help myself any longer and bought one ,untried ,from the net.....
I have been a life long LP player and the moment I sat down with my new guitar I knew immediately that it was indeed a step up in class from the regular LP.....night and day TBH. can't go back.
my own feeling is it's the HISTORIC bridge to body design coupled with the long neck tenon /solid body/better woods....nothing to do with the dyes