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Other than this:

http://guitar-auctions.co.uk/catalogue-preview-thursday-14th-december-2017/

Does anyone know of other "real" guitar auction houses (not starting with e and ending in bay :# ) ?

Always thought the additional costs here put the final prices a tad high. Anyone been?
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  • Is that harrysevens shop up for sale? 
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  • mortmort Frets: 331
    These Gardiner Houlgate auctions happen a couple of times a year and always spark a debate on here. I'd imagine this one will be no different as there's quite a few interesting lots this time.

    @HarrySeven will be all over Lot 25 !
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 2173
    edited November 15
    mort said:
    These Gardiner Houlgate auctions happen a couple of times a year and always spark a debate on here. I'd imagine this one will be no different as there's quite a few interesting lots this time.

    @HarrySeven will be all over Lot 25 !


    Sadly, no.

    Generally, because (even though they're now a factor of modern life), I really detest auctions (online or otherwise).

    Specifically because Gardiner Houlgate's Buyer's Premiums are ridiculous @ 24%

    Also because I'm guessing they will have separated it from Lot 435, the greedy shits.

    Finally, because this kind of guff (from their website) makes me vomit: "Auctioneering is reputed to be one of the oldest professions in the world and has been used by countless generations to establish and achieve the true market value of goods." Really?

    HarrySeven - searching for sh*t guitars so you don't have to.

    Feedback thread: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/58233/harryseven
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 2814
    mort said:
    These Gardiner Houlgate auctions happen a couple of times a year and always spark a debate on here. I'd imagine this one will be no different as there's quite a few interesting lots this time.

    @HarrySeven will be all over Lot 25 !


    Sadly, no.

    Generally, because (even though they're now a factor of modern life), I really detest auctions (online or otherwise).

    Specifically because Gardiner Houlgate's Buyer's Premiums are ridiculous @ 24%

    Also because I'm guessing they will have separated it from Lot 435, the greedy shits.

    Finally, because this kind of guff (from their website) makes me vomit: "Auctioneering is reputed to be one of the oldest professions in the world and has been used by countless generations to establish and achieve the true market value of goods." Really?

    My dad was telling me the other day that a couple of the big London auction houses now charge 40% - that is 40% to you the seller - he had a violin bow to sell for a few thousand pounds
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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 344
    edited November 15
    Did anyone see the pic GH put on their FB page the other day of the 500 guitar collection they have just taken on to sell for someone....that's a serious amount. 
    I saw that one of the big auction houses in the USA charge a minimal appraisal fee of $500.....and that's before they decide whether they want to sell it for you! 
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 2814
    Strat54 said:
    Did anyone see the pic GH put on their FB page the other day of the 500 guitar collection they have just taken on to sell for someone....that's a serious amount. 
    I did not see this - have you the link 

    I was told the other day about a large insurance claim on a house fire - believe it was smoke damage - guitars not marked but cases got 'smokey' and these are all to be offered for sale in due course - I know it was  a large amount of nice guitars - so not sure if this is linked to your comments
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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 5785
    Erm... I think they need to sack whoever is doing their estimates. Exhibit A:

    http://guitar-auctions.co.uk/portfolio-post/lot-351-vampower-baby-combo-guitar-amplifier/

    I have one of these. They are super rare and change hands for at least 10 times that estimate when they rarely get sold. I paid *significantly* more than those estimates for mine nearly 12 years ago... They didn't make many of those...

    Oh and the 24% thing... it does *include* VAT. ;-)

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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 2173
    impmann said:
    Erm... I think they need to sack whoever is doing their estimates. Exhibit A:

    http://guitar-auctions.co.uk/portfolio-post/lot-351-vampower-baby-combo-guitar-amplifier/

    They are super rare and change hands for at least 10 times that estimate when they rarely get sold. I paid *significantly* more than those estimates for mine nearly 12 years ago...

    Low estimates to attract bidders?
    HarrySeven - searching for sh*t guitars so you don't have to.

    Feedback thread: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/58233/harryseven
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 1488
    Low estimates to attract bidders?
    Those auction house owners aren't as stupid as we look.  :s
    I fear the Geeks, even when they bear GIFs.
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 1660
    Low estimates to attract bidders?
    Those auction house owners aren't as stupid as we look.  :s
    Estimates are not that low - add 24% plus shipping fees - a single guitar will be £40 - so a £200 bid will set you back around £290
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 5785
    Voxman said:
    Low estimates to attract bidders?
    Those auction house owners aren't as stupid as we look.  :s
    Estimates are not that low - add 24% plus shipping fees - a single guitar will be £40 - so a £200 bid will set you back around £290
    Problem is, it then sets up an expectation - if someone else sees that and for example, I put my Power Baby up for sale for its market value (around £400), I'll get every dickead and his mate telling me my price is too high, or lowballing me quoting those prices... Because they're 'experts' thanks to the internet.

    I'd also love to pick up that Odyssey guitar for less than £500. Experience tells me that such a guitar for sale in the UK normally sells for nearly three times that. Even with a 24% bidders premium, I'd happily find £500 plus the fees for that guitar.

    Auction estimates should be realistic, otherwise they shouldn't be there as they are misleading.


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  • @impmann or at least display a seaparate price including ALL the fees at VAT so you know what you will actually paying
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