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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2912
    Jazz tele is where it's at, gone
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 4934
    Parallel universe? Presumably one with bad eyesight and no taste.
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  • JayGeeJayGee Frets: 453
    The red Stratuar/Jagcaster needs more work on the scratch plate (specifically the area around the pots). Other than that. Yeah, why not?


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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 5567
    Bucket said:
    I like the Jazz Tele.

    Shelton Electric Instruments do a similar thing but with a Cabronita-style scratchplate, and a cutoff ashtray bridge, which is very nice.

    https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--CCIHLgaF--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1494222037/dhijg1tcgbpta0ha2sl5.jpg

    I have to say, I think their take on it is better resolved than Fender. I do like the idea of having some fantastic Jazzmaster pickups without all the associated faff of a Jazzmaster like the weird bridge and trem etc.
    Now that's nice
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 598
    Jeez.... and people think Marshall have lost the plot! 
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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 1681
    I am more and more coming to think that these are great. A hit and miss collection for sure, and some very Wide misses indeed in my own opinion, but rather than a ‘new’ collection of limited edition strats and Tele’s with the most minor of tweaks, here’s a whole kitchen sink of parts reassembled in some pretty funky, imaginative ways.  

    Jazzmaster trem on a tele? Why the hell not!?!
    Self-confessed Blues Lawyer
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 32683
    JerkMoans said:

    Jazzmaster trem on a tele? Why the hell not!?!
    Not least, because the rout is so close to the end of the guitar that the strap button can't be screwed into much. Drop it on the button and it will probably punch through into the cavity.

    And because it looks shit.

    I'm still hoping that these are just a Photoshopped joke and they're not actually guitars.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • DrumBobDrumBob Frets: 2
    Interesting offerings, but nothing earth shaking. Probably priced too high to attract serious buyers. I like the Meteora.
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 2497
    The Troublemaker Tele is quite nice, most of the others make me want to pour bleach into my eyes.
    Stupidity is what will kill us all in the end.
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 926
    Hmm looks like the guy in marketing sold the board his great idea to make a load of new models with no r&d or cost for additional parts or supply chain requirements.

    especially when your competitors are eating your lunch 

    pretty sad idea
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  • hobbiohobbio Frets: 3280
    Well, I love them all. There's not a single one I wouldn't welcome owning.

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  • GarthyGarthy Frets: 1878
    Jesus Christ I thought this was a photoshop fest by a fan, I didn't realise these were actually real Fenders!
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  • jellybellyjellybelly Frets: 265
    edited January 14
    A Tele-Jazzmaster with a hardtail would have been a ‘maybe’ but ultimately none of them do it for me!! The jag-strat thing is just... I don’t know what but I wouldn’t want one. 

    Edit: the jag-Strat is what the Cyclone wishes it was in a parallel universe. 
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 3962
    edited January 14
    The blue Tele looks like it was lifted from this G&L ASAT Deluxe...

    http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/ASAT_Deluxe_II/TI-AD2-130R44R23-1200.jpg


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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1702
    All cool. If you don’t like them you’re a saddo 
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  • We are very conservative (me included).  It does make me wonder what we would have been saying if this forum had existed in the 50's

    'That Stratocaster looks like Klaatu and Gort came and threw up on Mr. Fender's design sketches.' or something like that.
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 2316
    All hideous.
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  • TrudeTrude Frets: 321
    I actually really like the Jag Strat, but then I also like the Burns Cobra, which also takes the Strat template and adds a bunch of wacky 60s styling.

    I'd definitely try one, but not sure I'd pay what they're asking. If this thread is any indication of how they'll be received in the market then I guess I'll just wait until the inevitable blow out sales :) 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 32683
    The original Fender designs are masterpieces of integrated form and function, and not just because we’re familiar with them. This becomes obvious when you see some of the preparatory drawings, before they were quite finished - things that weren’t right were then changed.

    These are just a mess. If you take the individual elements of those classic designs out of context and bodge them together you end up like the children’s game where you mix and match the parts of different people so you end up with things like a baker wearing a policeman’s helmet and diver’s flippers.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • DrBobDrBob Frets: 1707
    I quite like them tbh although there are details on all of them that would jar a bit. As @ICBM ; says that Jazzmaster trem does look perilously close to the back of the body, and on the Trouble maker I think a wrap tailpiece rather than separate bridge & tp and ditching two of the knobs would make for a less cluttered look . And the worst offender has to be the mismatch in shape between the control plate/pickguard and the body edge on the Strat/Jag one. 
    But all that said I can see where Fender is coming from.
    On the one hand they know that they’re reaching saturation point with the standard models and even though the typical guitar buyer has a much larger collection than they would’ve done 10-15 years ago there’s only so many different variations of Strat, Tele etc that even the most avid, completist, collector will buy.
    Allied to that Fender must be looking at the hordes of builders coming out of the woodwork offering mash up reimaginings of their classics that they probably, quite rightly feel they want a piece of that action.
    After all from what I can tell the whole LaCabronita thing went pretty well for them.
    I just wish they were Squiers !
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  • bingefellerbingefeller Frets: 5436
    The Troublemaker Tele looks cool.
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  • DLMDLM Frets: 1823
    Love them all, especially the green tele
    Mom?
    The blue tele looks nice too
    Dad?

    I'd no idea you two were posting on here! :lol:
    Though what I’d really like to see is a Tele with the contours and body edge radius of a strat. Maybe even humbuckers too. I think that’d be a great combination.
    Suhr seem to be making a whole lot of these.
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    ICBM said:
    I'm still hoping that these are just a Photoshopped joke and they're not actually guitars.
    Garthy said:
    Jesus Christ I thought this was a photoshop fest by a fan, I didn't realise these were actually real Fenders!
    It's looking a lot like @Luuuke from intermusic/MR got a job at Fender, isn't it? The acid test will be if the next thing they put out is a Strat with a Line 6 POD integrated into the body...

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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 1681
    Here's Jimmy Page with a tele sporting a JM trem.  Interestingly, and with a nod to @ICBM, it's noticeably closer to the bridge than the forthcoming offering, to judge by the pictures.



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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5469
    ICBM said:
    The original Fender designs are masterpieces of integrated form and function, and not just because we’re familiar with them. This becomes obvious when you see some of the preparatory drawings, before they were quite finished - things that weren’t right were then changed.

    These are just a mess. If you take the individual elements of those classic designs out of context and bodge them together you end up like the children’s game where you mix and match the parts of different people so you end up with things like a baker wearing a policeman’s helmet and diver’s flippers.
    On second and third look, I have to agree. Not one of them is fully resolved, or “designed”.

    I kinda like the troublemaker because I love humbuckered Teles in general. But the ToM bridge doesn’t work for me here, as the neck will be back angled and changes the Tele geometry. And it’s a ToM, which isn’t as good as a hardtail Strat or Tele Bridge for this application IMO. Not sure if the neck is bolted on, assume so, in which case not sure mahogany bolted to mahogany is a good thing.

    I’m a complete Fender nut, but nothing they’ve done in tha last few years has taken my fancy, even with the complete USA range revamp (professional and elite). The Custom Shop even seems to be lacking some focus these days and just happy to churn out more and more relic S and T’s instead of weaving in the odd modern classic like the La Cabronita.
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 4607

    The Whiteguard Strat and Strat Tele Hybrid look much more modern and, perhaps, more practical than the others.  Incidentally, Warmoth have been making similar bodies in both those styles for several years now.

    The others really do just look like the results of messing about on Photoshop.  That said, I think they look OK, apart from the Jaguar Strat which is just stupid, the scratchplate and hardware don't go with the body shape at all. 

    I don't think I'll be buying.

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  • I would love a Tele with a Jazzmaster trem. But not that one. 
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  • DaevidJDaevidJ Frets: 238
    The jazz strat would look so much nicer if the contour of the pick guard matched the body outline with the chrome control plate for volume and tone controls like that of the mustang/ cyclone. Also not sure about the pickup selector switch...
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  • SNAKEBITESNAKEBITE Frets: 660

    It certainly is a leftfield move, but I agree with DrBob when he says about the saturation point.

    I particularly agree with him when he says it's a shame they are not Squires. If they had been cheaper I reckon they would fly off the shelves.

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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 1372
    I like the  red Stratuar/Jagcaster, and I usually hate red guitars!   Way over priced though.  
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