New TPS - Graham Coxon

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clarkefanclarkefan Frets: 474
edited March 9 in FX
Get in, that's more like it, though it'll probably still have too much fuzz
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9762
    @Thorpy Gunshot nestled in the middle of that pedalboard, I note... :D 
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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 7541
    He is a legend. A hero of mine. Its great that there is more of him than Dan and Mick - although I'd like to have had better close ups of the finger positions for some of those chords!



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  • ThorpyFXThorpyFX Frets: 4348
    @Thorpy Gunshot nestled in the middle of that pedalboard, I note... :D 
    Made me very happy indeed, he has some others on his other board too! 
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  • BintyTwanger77BintyTwanger77 Frets: 1245
    One of my guitar heroes. 
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  • Best TPS by a country mile.  
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7391
    I’m not entirely convinced Mick Taylor knew exactly what was going on half the time but very interesting ( and I don’t have a particular interest in Blur and Coxon). Didn’t learn a lot about pedals but some interesting stuff about his approaches. 
    Dum dum dum, dum dum de dum, dum dum dum, dum dummmm.
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 3072
    Quite enjoyable that, likeable bloke too
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  • dariusdarius Frets: 42
    He is just so Nigel Tufnel. 
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 622
    That’s my type of guitar playing. Total dude.
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 19288
    Always thought of him as a really interesting player - the Johnny Marr of Britpop in a way. Much as I liked that episode of TPS, I got the impression that Mick & Dan might be planning a pot holing expedition up him. Obsequious doesn’t quite cover it.... 
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  • dariusdarius Frets: 42
    Always absolutely hated that solo in Coffee And TV. Now i know why.
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  • MajorscaleMajorscale Frets: 664
    Watched it this morning and had to learn Charmless Man after he played the intro. Respect to Coxon, that is one busy and inventive guitar tune!
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  • GulliverGulliver Frets: 474
    Interesting approach from a show all about gear  - interview a guy who knows almost nothing about gear and cares even less...

    That said, I did enjoy it!
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 3072
    edited March 10
    Gulliver said:
    Interesting approach from a show all about gear  - interview a guy who knows almost nothing about gear and cares even less...

    That said, I did enjoy it!
    I didn't notice that so much but was odd that there was little pedalboard talk.

    What I did notice with them sat next to Graham is that D & M appear to be blowing all their tshirt money on Krispy Kremes



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  • Matt_McGMatt_McG Frets: 116
    Pretty early in his solo career this, so not recent, but still a blindingly catchy song:



    I think there's a fair bit of self-deprecation on display with Coxon, a lot of his stuff isn't trivial to play, whether that's chord voicing or time feel, even if he doesn't think of himself as a technical player.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9762
    Matt_McG said:

    I think there's a fair bit of self-deprecation on display with Coxon, a lot of his stuff isn't trivial to play, whether that's chord voicing or time feel, even if he doesn't think of himself as a technical player.
    True, but I think the point is he doesn't start by thinking "how about combing this voicing with that tonality and then create a dissonance against the root" or whatever, he just tries anything that isn't a barre chord and tries to come up with something that provides an interesting melodic and/or harmonic thing to listen to. 

    I'm not knocking that at all - it's exactly how I've always approached guitar music. I never saw Blur with him, but I saw them without him (Reading 2003) and it was dull as fuck. IMO the guy's hugely important and I love that he clearly has no interest in the corksniffery elements of gear - it's just finding something that makes the right noise reliably. 
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5694
    Great to see someone a bit different to the norm on TPS, always loved Coxon, but seriously Dan and Mick were out of their depth. Seemed their reference points stretched no further than hearing Coffe and TV and Song 2 on the radio - there’s so much more that should have been explored if they’d known their stuff (I for one could have filled 2hours of questions just on Modern Life is Rubbish related stuff) - very frustrating. 
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2319
    Gulliver said:
    Interesting approach from a show all about gear  - interview a guy who knows almost nothing about gear and cares even less...

    That said, I did enjoy it!
    I thought it was a useful counterpoint to the usual micro-level obsessing over almost imperceptible details (which I like, but let's call it what it is!).

    I think there are, very broadly, two approaches to guitar playing and tone- one that starts with the "big picture" of the finished sounds/parts/songs and works back to the gear, another that starts with the gear and uses it to construct the "big picture" stuff. TPS mainly takes the second approach, whereas Graham Coxon has chosen the first. It was interesting to see the two meet in the middle. 

    Mostly I just enjoyed watching one of my teenage guitar heroes talking shop. I could totally relate to the stuff about hating his younger self for writing complicated parts to play while singing backing vocals.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2386

    I found it interesting.  Not my kind of player usually but I appreciate the different angle and it's quite refreshing to hear his slant on the guitar.  I think the players who go the less conventional route end up with really individual sounds.
    I'm no Blur fan, they kind of passed me by but when he was playing the delayed chords you can see how that style fills stadiums well.

    That said I made it through half an hour and that was enough, it gave me an insight and appreciation of the guy, but D&M get a bit much for me after a certain amount of time (as do most of the YT presenters)
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  • BintyTwanger77BintyTwanger77 Frets: 1245
    dindude said:
    Great to see someone a bit different to the norm on TPS, always loved Coxon, but seriously Dan and Mick were out of their depth. Seemed their reference points stretched no further than hearing Coffe and TV and Song 2 on the radio - there’s so much more that should have been explored if they’d known their stuff (I for one could have filled 2hours of questions just on Modern Life is Rubbish related stuff) - very frustrating. 
    Same here, Modern Life is their best I think. When a guitarist that good shows they really aren't into fancy gear that much, it makes you think.
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  • mixolydmixolyd Frets: 347
    Matt_McG said:
    Pretty early in his solo career this, so not recent, but still a blindingly catchy song:



    I think there's a fair bit of self-deprecation on display with Coxon, a lot of his stuff isn't trivial to play, whether that's chord voicing or time feel, even if he doesn't think of himself as a technical player.
    Excellent tune and an obvious example of the arrangement technique Coxon described on the show: step on a pedal at the start of every chorus.
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 7856
    dindude said:
    Great to see someone a bit different to the norm on TPS, always loved Coxon, but seriously Dan and Mick were out of their depth. Seemed their reference points stretched no further than hearing Coffe and TV and Song 2 on the radio - there’s so much more that should have been explored if they’d known their stuff (I for one could have filled 2hours of questions just on Modern Life is Rubbish related stuff) - very frustrating. 
    Same here, Modern Life is their best I think. When a guitarist that good shows they really aren't into fancy gear that much, it makes you think.
    He's a song writer.
    That's the biggest difference, a typical guitarist looks at his part and his sound etc but tends to forget the more important things around him like the song it's self, complementing what the rhythm section is doing and something I've rarely ever seen with other guitarists, not playing all the time.
    Music should be about note choice and composition first and foremost, not handwand boutique pickups with bumble bee caps and tonewoods going through lava cables into your kot and Marshall half stack etc

    I'll get back in my box
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  • pmgpmg Frets: 219
    dindude said:
    Great to see someone a bit different to the norm on TPS, always loved Coxon, but seriously Dan and Mick were out of their depth. Seemed their reference points stretched no further than hearing Coffe and TV and Song 2 on the radio - there’s so much more that should have been explored if they’d known their stuff (I for one could have filled 2hours of questions just on Modern Life is Rubbish related stuff) - very frustrating. 
    Same here, Modern Life is their best I think. When a guitarist that good shows they really aren't into fancy gear that much, it makes you think.
    He's a song writer.
    That's the biggest difference, a typical guitarist looks at his part and his sound etc but tends to forget the more important things around him like the song it's self, complementing what the rhythm section is doing and something I've rarely ever seen with other guitarists, not playing all the time.
    Music should be about note choice and composition first and foremost, not handwand boutique pickups with bumble bee caps and tonewoods going through lava cables into your kot and Marshall half stack etc

    I'll get back in my box
    Wisest post I’ve seen on the forum. I wholeheartedly agree
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  • cgumtreecgumtree Frets: 20
    Really enjoyed it - never seen Graham seem so relaxed during an interview. Seemed like he was keen to play more and demo more Blur tones, but Dan + Mick didn't seem interested! Was hoping to be able to learn some more of Graham's parts after the Charmless Man intro.

    Interesting to hear him talk about the working relationship with Damon. Sounded like Graham was operating more like a session player, getting in and coming up with parts quickly and laying them down. I imagined it was a more collaborative process with Blur.
     
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  • mixolydmixolyd Frets: 347
    cgumtree said:
    Really enjoyed it - never seen Graham seem so relaxed during an interview. Seemed like he was keen to play more and demo more Blur tones, but Dan + Mick didn't seem interested! Was hoping to be able to learn some more of Graham's parts after the Charmless Man intro.

    Interesting to hear him talk about the working relationship with Damon. Sounded like Graham was operating more like a session player, getting in and coming up with parts quickly and laying them down. I imagined it was a more collaborative process with Blur.
     
    There is an interesting video somewhere on YouTube that goes into Blur’s process.  Albarn would turn up with demos worked out on his 4/8 track cassette recorder complete with bass, percussion, guitar, synth and anything else he found pleasing.  He also liked to restrict himself to E shape barre chords for the guitar in order to force more creativity elsewhere.  The four track even had a little mic built in which explains quirks like the whistling on Song 2.

    I think this context explains a lot about Coxon’s playing: he wasn’t just being given chords and a melody line to work from it was an adhoc, lofi arrangement full of hooks and clues as to what shape a guitar part might take to achieve similar effect.

    It also explains Albarn’s success upon leaving Blur - he just continued churning out the demos and found new collaborators to help flesh them out.
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  • BintyTwanger77BintyTwanger77 Frets: 1245
    dindude said:
    Great to see someone a bit different to the norm on TPS, always loved Coxon, but seriously Dan and Mick were out of their depth. Seemed their reference points stretched no further than hearing Coffe and TV and Song 2 on the radio - there’s so much more that should have been explored if they’d known their stuff (I for one could have filled 2hours of questions just on Modern Life is Rubbish related stuff) - very frustrating. 
    Same here, Modern Life is their best I think. When a guitarist that good shows they really aren't into fancy gear that much, it makes you think.
    He's a song writer.
    That's the biggest difference, a typical guitarist looks at his part and his sound etc but tends to forget the more important things around him like the song it's self, complementing what the rhythm section is doing and something I've rarely ever seen with other guitarists, not playing all the time.
    Music should be about note choice and composition first and foremost, not handwand boutique pickups with bumble bee caps and tonewoods going through lava cables into your kot and Marshall half stack etc

    I'll get back in my box
    Buckets of wisdom.
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  • I thought he came across as a bumbling idiot, fumbling through his sentences and incoherently explaining how he gets his awful tone....

    Ill get my coat
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