How to fatten up a Strat?

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  • mudslide73mudslide73 Frets: 1603
    I'm still enjoying the SSL-5 + GE-7 tbh. If I need it fatter I get my L.P. out. 
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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 335
    Easiest way is to add a 3-10k resistor in series with the bridge pickup.
    Alegree pickups & guitar supplies - www.alegree.co.uk
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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 242
    Alegree said:
    Easiest way is to add a 3-10k resistor in series with the bridge pickup.
    Sounds interesting, any more info on this..
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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 335
    Alegree said:
    Easiest way is to add a 3-10k resistor in series with the bridge pickup.
    Sounds interesting, any more info on this..
    Leeches treble out of the pickup by increasing the treble loss to ground through the distributed capacitance of the pickup coil.
    Alegree pickups & guitar supplies - www.alegree.co.uk
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3358
    rico said:
    Thanks for all the comments guys. I’ll try and address a few things!

    They are custom shop 54 pickups and I love the neck pickup sound. 

    I have a collection of boosts/drives/EQ and they can’t get it there without colouring the tone and becoming noisy as shit. 

    I’ve been using it through a cranked Marshall and Matamp, it’s not the amps that’s for sure! 

    Bridge pickup is indeed wired to the tone, it tames the harshness but is still gutless. 

    Is it possible to put a tele bridge pickup in a strat? I don’t mind a bit of hacking. 

    Part of the Tele sound is the way the pickup is mounted in the bridge, but part of it is the baseplate on the pickup.  As a few others have said, a baseplate will help.

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 1204
    You really dont need to throw money at the 'problem'  use the tone control, add a touch more gain to the amp, boost the mids and reduce the highs.  Plenty of great sounds to be had with weedy pickups
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  • ricorico Frets: 825
    I’ve been experimenting with EQ and gain - the trouble is that I’m trying to boost frequencies that just aren’t there. If I make drastic changes then it screws with the tone that I enjoy when the neck pickup is selected. 

    The bridge pickup does have a copper baseplate - is this usual? 
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1575
    Give it a stressful job and a taste for pizza.

    Worked for me.
    Is your middle position or your neck position a nicer tone tho?
    Certainly fuller, and it hasn't affected the functionality of my whammy bar.
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  • BazPBazP Frets: 274
    Baseplate and a tone control on the bridge
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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 7017
    SSL-5 by Seymour Duncan.

    If that hasn't got enough welly for you, then your amp is bust.
    Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever.

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 1204
    impmann said:
    SSL-5 by Seymour Duncan.

    If that hasn't got enough welly for you, then your amp is bust.
    Have one for sale if anyone wants it ;)
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  • BluesyDaveBluesyDave Frets: 280
    edited June 8
    Just do what ever this cool dude is doing...


    No Darling....I've had that ages.
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 3807
    timmypix said:
    If you're looking at Oil City, bear in mind Ash can put a baseplate on bridge pickups to fatten them up and tame the high end a bit.
    Exactly what I’ve got. Set of OilCity StoneTones with a baseplate fitted to the bridge unit. The bridge is already wound hotter than the other two and the baseplate gives it an additional boost.

    (I’ve also replaced the alloy trem block with a steel one but the difference that makes is actually quite subtle.)
    It might look like I'm listening to you, but in my head I'm playing my guitar.
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  • HeadphonesHeadphones Frets: 351
    Alegree said:
    Alegree said:
    Easiest way is to add a 3-10k resistor in series with the bridge pickup.
    Sounds interesting, any more info on this..
    Leeches treble out of the pickup by increasing the treble loss to ground through the distributed capacitance of the pickup coil.
    What on earth is this supposed to mean?
    A series resistor will "leech" nothing to ground or anywhere else!  It'll merely change the impedence.
    It might alter the resonant frequency of the circuit, but that's entirely different to some phantom evacuation of frequency.
    Distributed capacitance?
    What???




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  • AlnicoAlnico Frets: 4031
    I put SD Classic Stacked humbuckers in my Strat. The second coil sits underneath and cancels noise but they're very healthy pickups especially the bridge.
    The guitar isn't as loud as a Les Paul but it's a Strat, it's not supposed to be.
    It still sounds every bit a Strat but it's as silent as you need a guitar to be and sounds amazing.
    They were £90 each but I've never regretted it.

    There's a Hot Stack version if you need more but I wanted mine to stay close to its original sound so I bought 'Classic Stack'.
    Originally it was for the noise cancelling but I'm made up with the sound. 

    The switch is wired with position 4 as bridge and neck in parallel and that's a great sound.
    If you fall seven times, you stand up eight.
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 523
    I had a BG Pickups singlecoil sized p90 which sounded great in my old strat. Not as far as a full p90 but better than a standard singlecoil.
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 1977
    rico said:
    I’ve been experimenting with EQ and gain - the trouble is that I’m trying to boost frequencies that just aren’t there. If I make drastic changes then it screws with the tone that I enjoy when the neck pickup is selected. 

    The bridge pickup does have a copper baseplate - is this usual? 
    A Source Audio programmable EQ could sort this. One setting for neck pickup, one for bridge and just toggle as required
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17424
    gringopig said:
    Stick a Fralin P90 in there. Boy oh boy, those are strong pickups.
    This or a Harmonic Designs Super 90 Strat:

    http://www.harmonicdesign.net/allpages/strats.html

    A big beefy P90 sounding single coil in a Strat pickup shape.
    They drop right in and sound amazing.
    I have them in a bunch of guitars.
    I am the juice of four limes.
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5099
    Give it a stressful job and a taste for pizza.

    Worked for me.
    This MUST go into the "Nominations For Funniest Fretboard Comment 2018" thread....
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  • dallcorpdallcorp Frets: 28
    Just do what ever this cool dude is doing...


    ........play only the middle pickup position?
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1575
    Chalky said:
    Give it a stressful job and a taste for pizza.

    Worked for me.
    This MUST go into the "Nominations For Funniest Fretboard Comment 2018" thread....
    Thank you :)
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  • BluesyDaveBluesyDave Frets: 280
    @dallcorp , that might work.  Or you could play through a Quilter Mach 2 like his    ;)
    I was surprised how good it sounded.
    No Darling....I've had that ages.
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 3351
    just play through a Tumnus when on the bridge..........fattens, softens and adds a natural base resonance (which a lot of people criticise Tumnus for ) but excellent for this particular job.
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  • ricorico Frets: 825
    Thanks for all the continued advice all. The issue is that the lower frequencies simply aren't there in any audible capacity so with all the boost/EQ/Tumnus pedals in the world it's not gonna happen. 
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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 1204
    It sounds like it's buggered.  Have you measured the resistance?  No need to take it out just plug in a short patch lead and measure tip to sleeve making sure the pickup is selected and volume turned up
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  • BlacksheepBlacksheep Frets: 281
    Just do what ever this cool dude is doing...



    The main thing he’s doing in not playing on bridge pickup!

    in all seriousness you have to accept a strat for what it is. Don’t get hung up on the bridge pickup. The magic is in the neck pickup, with the middle as a close second. I only ever use the bridge in conjunction with fuzz . . . And that combo is a match made in heaven. The thin-ness of the bridge complements the woofiness of a fuzz face perfectly. 

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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 1100
    ^^ Wisdom!^^ Sage advice...use of the bridge pickup is not compulsory.....
    Stranger from another planet welcome to our hole - Just strap on your guitar and we'll play some rock 'n' roll

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  • chris_johnchris_john Frets: 0
    poopot said:
    Do this:


    Its free, if you don’t like it you can put it back to stock and change the pick up!...


    I followed this diagram and it sounds pretty good. I used a 1m pot for the blender, because I read somewhere that a higher value might prevent it getting too muddy. Now, I'm wondering if there is a way to add an option to put the neck in bridge together in parallel like a tele? 
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