Were Dokken or Ratt ever big in the UK ?

SidNewton

They aren't going to be remembered as great bands because well, they weren't and their style of rock has become irrelevant. That said, George Lynch was and remains shit hot. 

Lixarto

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

He turned out to be not real in the end.

Kerpunk

Lixarto said:

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

He turned out to be not real in the end.

I'm intrigued. Was he some kind of hair metal Tyler Durden?

Lixarto

Something like that; nobody could like Ratt that much.

FelineGuitars

mellowsun said:

Hanoi Rocks were the first glam/hair metal band that I encountered in the early 80s (gig at famous Essex dive The Pink Toothbrush) and iirc Ratt were heavily influenced by them.

Of the Rocks copyists generally I preferred Motley Crue and Poison.

i loved Hanoi Rocks, but there was no way any of these bands copied Hanoi Rocks.

Hanoi were so obviously influenced by the New York Dolls, Iggy and the Stooges, The Ramones and any number of punk bands 

Motley, Poison, Warrant etc were more Mott the Hoople, Cheap trick, Kiss

They were friends with Hanoi - Razzle died in a car crash Vince neil had in '84

There were a number of sleaze bands of the later 1980s that did owe a debt to Hanoi however

Even Axl Rose was a big Hanoi fan though....

Sambostar

Lixarto said:

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

He turned out to be not real in the end.

 

Sounds like me.  What do you mean by not real?  lol.  Was he a computer simulation or something or just a twisted figment of your imagination?  lol.

 

I never heard of Ratt back in the day, I don't think they broke big over here, especially with Round and Round and remember the USA and UK were fundamentally different places in terms of culture back then.  Most didn't have MTV.  Despite the Tube and Channel 4, the UK was like the Soviet block compared to MTV and the USA industry.  I caught up on everything three years later with endless MTV recordings, watching them all back to back, wishing I had MTV at the time and everything UK was still geared around Maiden, Motorhead and the legacy of early 80's metal when Out of the Cellar was released.  There wasn't a sunset strip in the UK and temperatures even then never got above 20 degrees, so I guess people couldn't relate to it eh.

Sambostar

Also all those kack bands, like the Cure and their goths and the New Romantics and all put most off anything Glam.  I hated the UK audience at the time.  No style whatsoever.  If you liked metal, it was Judas Priest, Motorhead and Iron Maiden, every song sounded the same.  Ozzy was about as glam as you could get.  You couldn't even admit to liking Motley Crue for being labeled something.  The great irony of course is that everyone then went gay and sensitive on a mass scale when indie and then grunge came in.

George did copy Limahl's hairstyle though eh.

I did love WASP, at least the first four albums, although I felt pretty alone in doing so.

Lixarto

Sambostar said: like the Cure

Yes.

FelineGuitars

For WASP - check out The Crimson Idol 

Even though it's techncally a Blackie Lawless solo album that the record label made them label as WASP it's still a corker.

Kind of an obvious tribute to Quadraphenia in some of it's themes

But being a fan of the whole "Sunset strip" bands in the early to mid 80s still left room for many others like Dio,Ozzy, Scorpions, Y&T , MSG, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Cinderella, Yngwie Malmsteen, Night Ranger, Def Leppard etc. as well as a huge number of 70s bands still going strong.

Jeztone

Dave Navarro doesn't agree with you To be honest a lot of the "Hair" stuff is cheesy, but then I find a lot of early 90s alternative stuff "lazy" so I see the good in both. Im always amazed at how someone who gets Johnny Marr, doesnt understand Yngwie Malmsteen, its really short sighted. I think any guitarist of any genre could learn from Lynch, he s really interesting to me. Imagine in if you were a painter & you just disregarded the impressionists. Its all music.

iseverynamegone

That's the worst guitar ever George.

Dave_Mc

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

Are you sure that wasn't me?

Sambostar

Dave_Mc said:

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

Are you sure that wasn't me?

 

Only if you are not real.  Are you real?

Dave_Mc

Surely if I'm not real I wouldn't know that I'm not real?

Sambostar

Yeah, but how do you really know that you are real?

daveyh

A thread about hair metal and I've not said anything.

Moltisanti

I love that there's so mich hair metal love on here, i never would have expected this sort of response to a thread about Dokken and Ratt. Although i must admit every time i hear "Don Dokken" (yep that's an actual name!) it makes me think of " Cock Docking" which is something my old drummer told me about many years ago (google it, you'll wish you hadn't)

Kerpunk

Dave_Mc said:

Kerpunk said:

There was a guy on the music radar forums who mentioned RATT in every other post.

Are you sure that wasn't me?

I think your better placed to answer that than me :P

xSkarloey

Wasn't Dokken named after the league singer Don Dokken? 

Or am I confusing that with a

Moltisanti said:

I love that there's so mich hair metal love on here, i never would have expected this sort of response to a thread about Dokken and Ratt. Although i must admit every time i hear "Don Dokken" (yep that's an actual name!) it makes me think of " Cock Docking" which is something my old drummer told me about many years ago (google it, you'll wish you hadn't)

I thought Dondokken was a small coastal village just outside Rotterdam. 

dindude

Haven't listens to Mr Scary for years and years until this thread. 

He's still got it too...