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No not No Claims Discount but New Computer Day :)

Raspberry Pi. It worked, straight out of the box, with a new monitor from PC world. The old laptop is dead - shame because there are a few files on it I want to keep.

Monitor from PCW 'cos they offered a 3 yr Replace it if it Screws UP (as many times as you like) warranty for £20.

And you get gcc, make, and loads of other software with the Pi :) 
"Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 12872
    Raspberry pi? Make? GCC? we live in different worlds
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  • BigBearKrisBigBearKris Frets: 1216
    I was hoping for a new cat day.

    Anyway - congrats on new toy. Have fun!
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    I was hoping for a new cat day.

    Anyway - congrats on new toy. Have fun!
    Roobi would never allow that!

    The keyboard is small and a bit different, which I don't mind - but I can't find the pipe symbol (aka vertical bar).

    Shift-3 echoes as pound
    backslash echoes as hash
    pipe echoes as tilde
    blip echoes as blip
    ears echoes as at
    shift-2 echoes as ears

    ... but where's the pipe?
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • Shift backslash ?
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    Shift backslash ?
    gets you a tilde
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • NiteflyNitefly Frets: 2508
    Alt gr backslash does it on my chromebook, Phil.

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    Did anyone bring the petits-fours?
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 21326
    The old laptop is dead - shame because there are a few files on it I want to keep.

    Just restore from the backups that that you have been keeping. :)

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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    UNSHIFTED
    top row  `1234567890-=
    first letter row qwertyuiop[]#
    2nd letter row asdfghjkl;'
    lower letter row zxcvbnm,./

    SHIFTED
    ¬!"£$%^&*()_+
    QWERTYUIOP{}~
    ASDFGHJKL:@
    ZXCVBNM<>?

    no sign of a pipe symbol anywhere (except on the key that echoes # and ~)

    @octatonic yeah right :)

     
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • NiteflyNitefly Frets: 2508
    No ALT key?  Or ALT GR?

    Did anyone bring the petits-fours?
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    there is an alt key. what is alt gr?
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • King85King85 Frets: 202
    If you take the hard drive out of the old laptop you can copy the files over via dos.
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  • FX_MunkeeFX_Munkee Frets: 2214
    UNSHIFTED
    top row  `1234567890-=
    first letter row qwertyuiop[]#
    2nd letter row asdfghjkl;'
    lower letter row zxcvbnm,./

    SHIFTED
    ¬!"£$%^&*()_+
    QWERTYUIOP{}~
    ASDFGHJKL:@
    ZXCVBNM<>?

    no sign of a pipe symbol anywhere (except on the key that echoes # and ~)

    @octatonic yeah right :)

     
    Alt Gr should be to the right of the space bar (mirror of Alt)
    Can't see your backslash key in the output above? pipe should be shift+backslash
    Shot through the heart, and you’re to blame, you give love a bad name. Not to mention archery tuition.
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 6619
    New Cigars Day - I just want the old ones back... Rio 6 and Tampa Bay Nuggets in particular...
    <Vintage BOSS Upgrades>
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    @FX_Munkee (at work now) the keyboard on my computer at work has an alt-gr key, where you said I'd find it. I don't think the keyboard on my R.Pi at home has one. The key marked as if it should echo \ (shift = |) is to the left of z/Z on my keyboard at work, and it does just that. The key with the same labelling on the keyboard at home is in the place where #/~ is on the keyboard at work (ie on the extreme rh end of the middle line), and it actually echoes as #/~. Its as if the (smaller) keyboard at home is missing a key. This one at work is a Dell keyboard, BTW. The one at home is a cheap chinese nondescript job.
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • FX_MunkeeFX_Munkee Frets: 2214
    Sounds like it's a US layout keyboard, if you set it to that the keys should actually do what they say.
    Not very helpful link for you as it's Windows, but it makes the differences clear:-
    Shot through the heart, and you’re to blame, you give love a bad name. Not to mention archery tuition.
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  • guitartangoguitartango Frets: 217
    I know this sounds stupid but to get round this I googled "piped" command and then pasted the "|" into the terminal.
    Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    @FX_Munkee I not sure could live with that (ie the keys doing what they say they do) because I'd probably lose hash and tilde while obtaining pipe and backslash. Pipe, tilde and hash are essential (backslash not so). I think I'd better get another keyboard.

    Pipe - because it, er, pipes in shell script and it means OR in C
    hash - because it is the comment delimiter in shell script
    tilde - because it is the bit inverter in C

    whereas backslash is only used (perversely) by Windoze as a filestore directory separator

    why TF can't people give you the characters you need on a keyboard??
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • FX_MunkeeFX_Munkee Frets: 2214
    @Phil_aka_Pip TBH I think getting a normal UK layout keyboard is probably your best answer.
    Shot through the heart, and you’re to blame, you give love a bad name. Not to mention archery tuition.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9763
    FX_Munkee said:
    @Phil_aka_Pip TBH I think getting a normal UK layout keyboard is probably your best answer.
    I suspect you are right
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • vasselmeyervasselmeyer Frets: 2577
    @Phil_aka_Pip I've got a few spares I can let you have, just paste them in and let me know when you run out and need some more. Here are ten for starters ;)

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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 6731
    UNSHIFTED
    top row  `1234567890-=
    first letter row qwertyuiop[]#
    2nd letter row asdfghjkl;'
    lower letter row zxcvbnm,./

    SHIFTED
    ¬!"£$%^&*()_+
    QWERTYUIOP{}~
    ASDFGHJKL:@
    ZXCVBNM<>?

    no sign of a pipe symbol anywhere (except on the key that echoes # and ~)

    @octatonic yeah right :)

     
    If you want to live in this country LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH.
    "OUR TOSSPOT"
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