Dyson Hot and Cool Fan - Is it worth the money?

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LestratcasterLestratcaster Frets: 504
These are going for £349 on Amazon - Has anyone got one of these? Are they worth the hype? 

Since converting my garage there's no central heating so been using a portable oil filled radiator to keep it warm. Usually an hour before I need to use the room I'll put it on a medium setting, which generates enough heat to warm up the room and then I put it on a low setting for another hour or so before switching it off. It retains the heat quite well to be fair, but it takes a long time to heat up, and only kinda warms up the area immediately around it. My roomm is quite big (25 square metres).

With the Dyson it has this "disperse" feature to spray the heat around the room, or "Jet" which is directly pointing towards a source.

Oil filled radiators are cheaper to run aren't they? This Dyson one has an electrical bladeless fan I believe. 

I'm not in the room 24/7 so don't think installing a central heating system would suffice.
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  • ThePrettyDamnedThePrettyDamned Frets: 3985
    It's just what it is - a fan that can warm up the air a bit. We like it for what it is, but have not used an oil filled radiator. 
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  • ThePrettyDamnedThePrettyDamned Frets: 3985
    Although it's too expensive for what it is... 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 38200
    It’s a Dyson. Of course it’s not worth the money!

    All Dyson products are overpriced. You’re paying for the ‘cool’ factor as much as the innovation and product quality, the same as you are with Apple - why else are these companies so profitable? The question is whether it does what you want it to, as well or better than the alternatives.

    I like my Dyson vacuum cleaner, by the way :). (And my Apple products too.)
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 5358
    An oil filled radiator is not cheaper to run than a fan heater with the same heat output. They are designed for use over long periods in well-insulated rooms, they both have electric heating elements.

    I have exactly the same issue, I use an external garage as a home gym. If it's not insulated you need to heat the air, not the walls

    The best solution is 1 or 2 electric fan heaters, run for just 5 or 10 minutes before you use the room, set a thermostat on them or put them on a lower setting when you are using the room. Otherwise you are heating the sky for 55 minutes before you use it, and a long time after you have finished.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 38200

    I have exactly the same issue, I use an external garage as a home gym. If it's not insulated you need to heat the air, not the walls

    The best solution is 1 or 2 electric fan heaters, run for just 5 or 10 minutes before you use the room, set a thermostat on them or put them on a lower setting when you are using the room. Otherwise you are heating the sky for 55 minutes before you use it, and a long time after you have finished.
    This.

    That’s the right physics to minimise the energy loss. You need to heat the air as fast as possible, and preferably nothing else.
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2735

    The dyson is 1200w, so is probably cheaper to run that your average argos £20 fan heater, and won't have the bad smell, so I've read.  Whether that 1200W is better used by the fact is pushed further around the room, I'm not sure, that's probably the idea.

    Your average 2-3kw fan heater does a good job of heating air up quickly and cheap too, you'd have to do a lot of heating for the £350 dyson to pay for itself, although there may be an environmental advantage.


    I'd go for the cheap option myself, although the air purification model is of some interest to me as I have asthma and it might be of some benefit.

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  • BeardyAndyBeardyAndy Frets: 167
    Probably like all Dyson products, look great and work well but take the piss with the prices!

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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 1291
    edited May 9
    If Jeff Beck played a vacuum cleaner instead of a guitar he'd play a Henry, not a Dyson.
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  • LestratcasterLestratcaster Frets: 504
    An oil filled radiator is not cheaper to run than a fan heater with the same heat output. They are designed for use over long periods in well-insulated rooms, they both have electric heating elements.

    I have exactly the same issue, I use an external garage as a home gym. If it's not insulated you need to heat the air, not the walls

    The best solution is 1 or 2 electric fan heaters, run for just 5 or 10 minutes before you use the room, set a thermostat on them or put them on a lower setting when you are using the room. Otherwise you are heating the sky for 55 minutes before you use it, and a long time after you have finished.
    Yeah the room is insulated but for a couple of hours it just needs a bit of warming up. Thing with oil radiator I have to turn it on for a good hour before I use the room but whilst it cools down it retains that heat wewall.

    With the Dyson perhaps I can put it on for 15 minutes to blast some warm air then it’ll keep the heat for an hour. Means I use the power for a shorter duration.
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 2438
    On a gut reaction I wouldn’t give James Dyson the lint out of my belly button I’ll never buy another of his products
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3778
    Love mine.  The cooling is better than the heating IMHO
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

    Feedback
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 5358
    An oil filled radiator is not cheaper to run than a fan heater with the same heat output. They are designed for use over long periods in well-insulated rooms, they both have electric heating elements.

    I have exactly the same issue, I use an external garage as a home gym. If it's not insulated you need to heat the air, not the walls

    The best solution is 1 or 2 electric fan heaters, run for just 5 or 10 minutes before you use the room, set a thermostat on them or put them on a lower setting when you are using the room. Otherwise you are heating the sky for 55 minutes before you use it, and a long time after you have finished.
    Yeah the room is insulated but for a couple of hours it just needs a bit of warming up. Thing with oil radiator I have to turn it on for a good hour before I use the room but whilst it cools down it retains that heat wewall.

    With the Dyson perhaps I can put it on for 15 minutes to blast some warm air then it’ll keep the heat for an hour. Means I use the power for a shorter duration.
    what's better about the Dyson? Is it quieter? Their cooling fan was quite noisy
    1200w is quite low output for a heater btw

    I just use £20 or £30 ceramic fan heaters from argos or Currys
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  • chrisjac2chrisjac2 Frets: 50
    My Dad got the dyson heater/ air purifier dodad. Worked well for a bit then showed an error. he is on his 3rd now wouldnt recomend
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 5914
    Philtre said:
    If Jeff Beck played a vacuum cleaner instead of a guitar he'd play a Henry, not a Dyson.
    I'm not sure I follow the logic.
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  • LestratcasterLestratcaster Frets: 504
    An oil filled radiator is not cheaper to run than a fan heater with the same heat output. They are designed for use over long periods in well-insulated rooms, they both have electric heating elements.

    I have exactly the same issue, I use an external garage as a home gym. If it's not insulated you need to heat the air, not the walls

    The best solution is 1 or 2 electric fan heaters, run for just 5 or 10 minutes before you use the room, set a thermostat on them or put them on a lower setting when you are using the room. Otherwise you are heating the sky for 55 minutes before you use it, and a long time after you have finished.
    Yeah the room is insulated but for a couple of hours it just needs a bit of warming up. Thing with oil radiator I have to turn it on for a good hour before I use the room but whilst it cools down it retains that heat wewall.

    With the Dyson perhaps I can put it on for 15 minutes to blast some warm air then it’ll keep the heat for an hour. Means I use the power for a shorter duration.
    what's better about the Dyson? Is it quieter? Their cooling fan was quite noisy
    1200w is quite low output for a heater btw

    I just use £20 or £30 ceramic fan heaters from argos or Currys
    Yeah it’s meant to be quieter. There’s a clicking noise when I turn the oil radiator on. 
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  • teradaterada Frets: 4136
    Philtre said:
    If Jeff Beck played a vacuum cleaner instead of a guitar he'd play a Henry, not a Dyson.
    I dunno, the Henry has robot suction tuners and poor build quality. 
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 215
    Oil Filled radiators work better in well insulated rooms. They take much longer to heat the room, so if its poorly insulated then you the heat losses could potentially be outweighing the gains.  
    I would use a cheap 3kw fan heater to heat the room quickly and use the savings to pay for the additional electricity.
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  • strtdvstrtdv Frets: 1393
    edited May 9
    I kilowatt is a kilowatt. For a room that size which is left to get really cold when not in use you're going to need around 4kw of heating power to get it up to temperature in a reasonable time, and probably 1kw to keep it there unless the insulation is particularly good.

    I'd get a couple of 2kw halogen heaters and put them on timed switches assuming the insulation is reasonable, or a 2kw halogen and a 2kw oil filled radiator (the halogen will great the room fairly quickly but once the oil filled radiator gets up to temperature it'll stay warm for an hour or so).
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    edited May 9
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 4507
    Dyson Hot And Cool Fan. 
    Sounds like a variation on the David Beckham Thermos flask joke.
    Be seeing you.
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4661
    These are going for £349 on Amazon - Has anyone got one of these? Are they worth the hype? 

    Since converting my garage there's no central heating so been using a portable oil filled radiator to keep it warm. Usually an hour before I need to use the room I'll put it on a medium setting, which generates enough heat to warm up the room and then I put it on a low setting for another hour or so before switching it off. It retains the heat quite well to be fair, but it takes a long time to heat up, and only kinda warms up the area immediately around it. My roomm is quite big (25 square metres).

    With the Dyson it has this "disperse" feature to spray the heat around the room, or "Jet" which is directly pointing towards a source.

    Oil filled radiators are cheaper to run aren't they? This Dyson one has an electrical bladeless fan I believe. 

    I'm not in the room 24/7 so don't think installing a central heating system would suffice.
    For my garage conversion I hung an electric radiator, one of these jobbies:

    https://richmondradiators.com/product/adax-neo-wifi-electric-convection-radiator-smart-home-panel-heater/?attribute_pa_colour=grey&attribute_pa_power-output=800w&gclid=CjwKCAjwwtTmBRBqEiwA-b6c__68fTJx5Ek2nPqlrMgXK9O3LTYseQxAGSg4eKyzsxjksTBAMg9hCxoCzsoQAvD_BwE

    Mine is on a fused spur but it actually came wired up for a normal socket and the brackets just screw into rawl plugs I have never used the wifi option on it.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 21326
    We don't have (or need) the heating, but have a tower fan (AM07, I think).
    Bought for a Chinese New Year sale, so half off.
    I wouldn't have paid full retail for one.

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  • ESBlondeESBlonde Frets: 2791
    My garage workshop is not insulated. I use a cheap 1Kw fan heater that cost a tenner from Homebase years ago. It has a trip switch that cuts out if it tips over.

    Hot air is emitted with some force and then rises. I find warm socks and not standing on the concrete areas are my best tips. It's adequate for short hobby type applications, I'd insulate the roof and door gaps if I needed better performance, but since dust would be an issue I've decided not to. My air filter system also circulates the air in there every 3 minets.

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  • LestratcasterLestratcaster Frets: 504
    A halogen heater is something to consider, or just as a measure to put some temporary heat in the room, running a fan heater for about 15 minutes as they're quite quick to generate heat I think.

    Its now approaching summer so its not as much of an issue to have heat in there so got a few months to look at different options.
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