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  • Right, defo need to go try some amps. Guitar shops will hate me even more lol... I'd say around £500 sounds reasonable but willing to pay more for something really good. Over £1k is probably out of the question..!
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3276
    Have to say those Jet-City amps/combos look like superb value - no idea what they sound like ......
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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  • Jalapeno said:
    Have to say those Jet-City amps/combos look like superb value - no idea what they sound like ......
    Well, you know my opinion on that. There's a reason I've been gigging 'em for the last 3 or 4 years. Tried a lot of more expensive amps, and always kept coming back to Jet City.

    Of course, that's all changed now that I've got their big brother, but it's not really fair to compare a £230 amp to a Soldano ;)
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • How much was the Soldano in comparison? 

    I'm all for an easy life so anything that requires maintenance is a no-no for me.
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  • How much was the Soldano in comparison? 

    I'm all for an easy life so anything that requires maintenance is a no-no for me.
    £1599. As I said...not exactly a fair comparison ;)

    In a few weeks, however, I'll be putting a comparison video up purely because people want to hear it.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • thomasross20;375342" said:
    How much was the Soldano in comparison? 

    I'm all for an easy life so anything that requires maintenance is a no-no for me.
    Valve amps need maintenance. How much depends on reliability, but they will need valves changing and rebiasing from time to time, which means doing it yourself or (my approach) giving it to someone who knows what they're doing.

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  • Defo want to see/hear the differences, digitalscream.

    I'm an engineer but outside of engineering I just want to play guitar, not be doing more engineering lol
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3276
    Defo want to see/hear the differences, digitalscream.

    I'm an engineer but outside of engineering I just want to play guitar, not be doing more engineering lol
    This.  In Spades - have a Wisdom.

    Get a new Valve amp and it's unlikely anything will need changing for a long time *

    * depending on how often you do actually run the amp hard gigging.

    Did you look at that Cube 80 video from Chappers @thomasross20 ?

    I use a Boogie Mini Rectifier or Dr Z Maz as the mood takes me.  Backup is a Marshall S/S on clean with a TRex Moeller for dirt switching in front of my pedals.  DI out the back of the amp into PA, amp+speakers for my monitoring only. These amps are all simply too f*cking loud for rehearsal studios though - looking for something else (used to use a Fender BJ, but nowhere near enough clean headroom, and no FX loop).
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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  • thomasross20thomasross20 Frets: 3543
    edited October 2014
    Cube 80 any good for live you reckon?
    Concern is getting these amps then never being able to use them for 90+% of the time at home.

    Got to admit one thing... being a HUE Slash fan... I would LOVE an AFD100 head... :o
    But I realise it's big, loud, and again valves.

    I'll check out those others you use, jal thanks!
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3276
    edited October 2014
    Sounds fricking huge here ->



    The big reveal

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  • If you're a slash fan, he doesn't use the afd head ;)

    He uses old Marshall amps. I'd pretty much rule them out, though a jcm800 combo could be in budget.

    The Laney gh50 would ballpark a slashy tone, and have tons of gain to spare if you want to get really heavy. It's sort of based on a jcm800.
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  • thomasross20thomasross20 Frets: 3543
    edited October 2014
    You're obviously a Laney fan :D

    Why stay clear of Marshalls? I only ever had a small one (MG15FX or something) but for some reason it stopped working.

    Mesa Boogie is out. Too much money.
    Laney looks like a good contender (in general - not talking about specific models).
    Blackstar good value for money but not 100% on the sounds ?
    Jet City good value for money.
    Vox keep popping up and looks like good value for money. AC30 and Nightrain pops up everywhere.
    Roland - love my Cube 30 but don't know if I want valve or solid state.

    Has to be able to fit in my car, whatever it is. So head + cab sounds ok but as long as not too big. Combo probably better. And again, I'd want to play it at home, ideally through headphones if that's even an option (not common with what we're talking about). Has to achieve the Guns style distortion - creamy leads a must!

    I just feel overwhelmed with the choice....


    I keep thinking single channel is the way to go for what I want.. (+ attenuator for home practice?)?

    If I go for a single channel amp using only my OD pedal for dirt... does it really matter if it's valve or solid-state??

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  • Anybody tried a Mesa Stilleto Ace?
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5670

    Laney's don't really sound like anything but Laney's. Nice but quite a specific sound.

    Not tried the Stilleto Ace, but the other Mesa's I've tried have been good, sound wise.

    Have you considered something like a Blackstar HT-dual pedal, into a clean, neutrally set amp?

    The amp is then effectively the power-amp and the HT dual is effectively the pre-amp.

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • thomasross20thomasross20 Frets: 3543
    edited October 2014
    There's an Ace at guitarguitar going for £1k. 
    Blackstar is a possible on the list!
    FOr the right amp, considering the cost of my recent guitars, I'd pay...
    At rehearsal I got into a nice Fender and use my Riot distortion pedal and it all sounds great! 
    I only ever use the clean channel on it!

    Anybody tried PRS SE Combos?
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  • ThePrettyDamnedThePrettyDamned Frets: 3806
    edited October 2014
    Not a Laney fanboy, but the gh50 is a jcm800 style amp, but more modern sounding. Not perfect for slash tone. Damn sight closer than a lot of other amps you've mentioned though.

    Stay away from modern Marshall unless you can afford a nice, top end model. They are known for poor reliability, though the dsl does sound pretty good to me.

    If you want to sound a bit like slash, but don't want to break the bank, I'd look into the Laney kit. Another EXCELLENT suggestion would be an 18 watt amp from mjw. If you need giggable cleans, maybe a higher powered one, but they're mostly Marshally sounding circuits, and for reasonable price. Hand wired means repairable easily, and parts are easier to source.

    I would steer away from mesa unless you know they offer you something you want. Rather than browsing a list of used amps, and seeing what you can afford, you need to know what you want to sound like, then work out what circuits and speakers provide that sound.
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5670

    A mate has a HT-20 combo. That's a nice little amp, and quite gigable for small-ish (IE pub size) gigs.

    I use a MArshall DSL 401 Combo, which again is a nice amp, and, again, suitable for pub size gigs. Mine's competed with a 100 Stack, and the guy using the stack had to ask me to turn down (master on 5..........)

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8133
    mike_l said:

    A mate has a HT-20 combo. That's a nice little amp, and quite gigable for small-ish (IE pub size) gigs.

    I use a MArshall DSL 401 Combo, which again is a nice amp, and, again, suitable for pub size gigs. Mine's competed with a 100 Stack, and the guy using the stack had to ask me to turn down (master on 5..........)

    I think that depends on the band. 

    I had an HT-20 and it was completely unusable with the band I was in at the time even for rehearsal. It's not the loudest 20 watter.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • MAIN QUESTION:

    If I'm only using clean and a distortion pedal for dirt.... does it matter if it's solid state or valve?
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8133
    MAIN QUESTION:

    If I'm only using clean and a distortion pedal for dirt.... does it matter if it's solid state or valve?
    Yes. 

    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • monquixote;376347" said:
    thomasross20 said:

    MAIN QUESTION:

    If I'm only using clean and a distortion pedal for dirt.... does it matter if it's solid state or valve?





    Yes. 
    +1.

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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5670
    MAIN QUESTION:

    If I'm only using clean and a distortion pedal for dirt.... does it matter if it's solid state or valve?
    Depends on whether it sounds good or not. And whether the amp plays nicely with pedals.

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • OK, good to know!
    I'm not completely against head vs cab... as long as the cab isn't ridiculously big. 
    Going to be up all night checking amps out. 

    Just looking at the PRS ones (naturally lol) now.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8133
    edited October 2014
    The PRS SE amps were stupidly expensive when they first came out, but they seem to be a much more sensible price now though there was some talk of them being discontinued due to not being very popular.

    Edit they aren't listed on the site anymore so I guess they are dead. I haven't heard especially good things about them.
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  • Hmm.. there's an SE custom 50 new going for £470. 
    God, at least with guitars I knew what I was getting. Amps is another thing completely..
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5670

    I have a little Marshall Valvestate, for home use only, which, for the size/power/SS wiring sounds pretty good (OK it'll never have the trouser flapping noise of 100w and a couple of 4x12's), but in it's own way it's good. Also it takes pedals nicely.

    I used to have a Squire SS amp, which sucked floppy donkey cock (sound wise), and didn't play nicely with pedals.

     

    FWIW Dimebag Darrell used SS Randall amps...........

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8133
    mike_l said:

    FWIW Dimebag Darrell used SS Randall amps...........

    He did have a really horrible super aggressive guitar tone though. 
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  • Randall prob too hot for me. 

    The Fender I use at practice sounds great clean and great distorted when I click my pedal. Makes me wonder if I really notice the difference between a good and crap amp. In another practice room years ago I went through a Marshall head + cab and it was heavenly
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5670
    edited October 2014

    Yep, but in context his sound worked really well.

    The closest I've got to his sound is using a high-gain SS pedal (actually a Boss Mega Distortion)

     

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8133
    Randall prob too hot for me. 

    The Fender I use at practice sounds great clean and great distorted when I click my pedal. Makes me wonder if I really notice the difference between a good and crap amp. In another practice room years ago I went through a Marshall head + cab and it was heavenly
    I'm pretty sure you will. Given the choice I (and I suspect most people) would be much happier playing a squier through a really quality valve amp than a PRS through an entry level solidstate amp. Amps are generally speaking more important for tone than guitars.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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