How many people don't own or use a tuner?

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Rowby1Rowby1 Frets: 294

Went to see a band the other night, two guitarists, not a tuner in sight, both out of tune all night (or as long as I was there anyway).

They're not expensive. So why doesn't every guitar player own and use one?

I've just bought a TU-3 for less than £50 and my old TU-2 (which cost £70 about 10 years ago) is still functional if a bit battered.


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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2498
    add YouTube videos to that they're usually out of tune as well.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 10966
    When tuners first came out I thought they were for beginners so I never got one for years. Then I tried one and realised how wrong I'd been. 
    Been using a tuner for the last 5 or 6 years.
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  • DaevidJDaevidJ Frets: 183
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  • MossMoss Frets: 2386






















    Me
    Stop crying, start buying
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 1705
    Best musical invention in the past 50 years.
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  • Rowby1Rowby1 Frets: 294
    Moss said:






















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    Explain yourself man!!    :)
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  • MossMoss Frets: 2386
    Rowby1 said:
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    Explain yourself man!!   :)
    Never replaced it after breaking a headstock tuner about 2 years ago. Have really good relative pitch and know a perfect E - have checked against a tuner
    Stop crying, start buying
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  • ROOGROOG Frets: 400
    I used to use my keyboard, which made sense as I used to record one with the other. I have a small collection of tuners these days, I like my old plugin Korg tuner/ metronome. Mic mode works well too.

     

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  • vasselmeyervasselmeyer Frets: 1934
    There's no excuse for being out of tune in a band. Even if no-one has a tuner you can make sure you're in tune with each other. That said, I'm never without some kind of tuner, even if it's just a cheap clip-on.
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  • MattFGBIMattFGBI Frets: 1425
    Buy a guitar, then a tuner, then an amp. Then more guitars. And amps.

    Just make sure you have a tuner.

    I do a fair bit of engineering and it makes me sad the number of bands that don't have tuners.
    This is not an official response. 

    ukqueries@fender.com 


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  • stimpsonslostsonstimpsonslostson Frets: 2678
    edited August 2015
    I use the tuner on my amp at home, and keep a Korg tuner in my gig bag- my only acoustic is a 12 string. Tuning THAT by ear is beyond my limited abilities. With the advent of phone apps etc, there's really no excuse for NOT having a tuner.
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  • Most people don't even own a guitar.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 10966
    I use the tuner on my amp at home, and keep a Korg tuner in my gig bag- my only acoustic is a 12 string. Tuning THAT by ear is beyond my limited abilities. With the advent of phone apps etc, there's really no excuse for NOT having a tuner.



    Oddly, I tune the normal strings with a tuner but the octave strings I do by ear. I just find it quicker and easier that way.
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  • DaevidJ said:
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    I've now got 4. The Sledgehammer Pro is my newest one - works really well even with the low B string on a 5 string Bass. The only thing thing I've noticed is that it can pick sounds from other nearby instruments, so sometimes you need to shield it with one of your hands whilst tuning.
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  • slackerslacker Frets: 732
    I've got a Korg DT3 which I put in the guitar case, a Boss TU thingy with a needle for outdoor gigs (cant always see a LED) and for alt tunings and a TC mini 6 string tuner on the pedal board. I sometimes custom build a EH bag with a couple of pedals a tuner and an AB box. 

    I thinking about getting a headstock tuner. 


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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3395
    I've had one of these since 1982 and I've only had to change the battery 3 or 4 times.  I've got a Pitchblack pedal too.

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  • DaevidJDaevidJ Frets: 183
    I have a Snark which works really well... No tuner though in my pedal train although at one point i did own a flash Korg DT-10...
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 3956
    Most people don't even own a guitar.
    Ignorance of the law is no defence.
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 1331
    I like to tune by ear when I can, but a tuner is essential for silent tuning between or even during songs.
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  • I don't bother using a tuner unless I'm restringing but then I have good relative pitch and only play at home. If I were to be playing in public I'd use one a that's one job I can do without with everything else going on. I also do like my B string slightly flat though which tuners don't like - when I hear the major third it never sounds quite right to my ear if it's bang on exact

    I want to believe

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  • The only pedal you NEED on a pedal board.
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4096
    I often sound like I don't own or use a tuner......
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  • mike257mike257 Frets: 212
    MattFGBI said:
    I do a fair bit of engineering and it makes me sad the number of bands that don't have tuners.
    This. It utterly blows my mind how many guitarists will turn up to play a gig and not have one. No gigging musician should be without the means to tune their instrument on stage.  I've seen bands where there's one tuner up there between three players and they're popping and banging unplugging from amps to use each others, or tuning to each others open strings mid gig. Cringeworthy. Sometimes they've clearly spent a fortune on the rest of their rig too.

    It's times like that I love being the man with his fingers on the 'mute' buttons.
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  • brownovichbrownovich Frets: 247
    It's staggering isn't it. Not only should you have a tuner, but someone in the band should have a spare!

    I've got one on my pedal board and a clip on Korg thing in my bag for emergencies. Failing that? iPhone!
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  • fretfinderfretfinder Frets: 1734
    edited August 2015
    The third most important electric guitar accessory ever, after a lead and a strap. :)
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 1952
    Philly_Q said:
    I've had one of these since 1982 and I've only had to change the battery 3 or 4 times.  I've got a Pitchblack pedal too.

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    £60?
    :-O

    Kids today don't know how lucky they are with the cheap accurate stuff available nowadays.

    I have a similar model to yours, a JHS GT1000 that cost £20 in the '80's.

    A wonderful revelation after relying on tuning forks and pitch pipes previously.

    This is it (not my pic though)


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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3395
    edited August 2015
    @Neil  The Justina in the picture isn't mine, but it's identical, although mine has gone from grey to a sort of nicotine yellow colour over the years, I think from sunlight.  I still have the plastic box for mine but I don't think I ever had the outer cardboard box.  

    I remember the advert in Guitar Player featuring Tom Crain from the Charlie Daniels Band.  

    I don't know whether that $59.95 was the original price, or someone selling it later as an "antique".  Can't remember what mine cost me, maybe about £20-£25?  I do remember I bought a TS-9 around the same time, I think that was £39.

    Ah, they built things to last in those days.....

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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 4738
    Tuner is essential - if giging under lights, you need to tune a lot and even for those who can tune by ear, tuning with so much ambient noise is hard. Not to mention that a good tuner pedal cuts the output. I tune in every break between songs.

    Nothing worse than seeing one band member tuning another band members guitar by ear, mid way through set with sound on...
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26850
    It's not the tuner (or lack of) that's the issue, it's being out of tune. If you can tune by ear then you don't need a tuner. Classical musicians have managed fine for centuries.

    But tuning by ear on a noisy stage is not always easy. So I use a tuner for anything where I won't be able to hear myself or the other musicians to tune to them.

    Unlike a lot of people I don't object to hearing a musician tuning on stage either, as long as it's quick and sounds good. It often isn't and doesn't...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • The other guitarist in my old band didn't use a pedal tuner, but had a welll-setup PRS that very rarely drifted out of tune, and it sounded fine. 

    Conversely, I've seen plenty of guys with tuners who still manage to play out of tune.

    Key thing is being in tune, and often a tuner allows you to do that in a noisy bar in the space of a few seconds. For that, they're priceless.
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