Trump does it again

Reverend

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-blocks-news-outlets-from-media-briefing-a7598641.html

Sambostar

wow

HAL9000

He who controls the press controls people's thinking. See page 13 of the 'Today's Trumpy Tantrum' thread.

http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/94684/todays-trumpy-tantrum/p13

Interesting that he's used that contentious 'enemy of the people' phrase again. Hitler used it when referring to the Jews and Mao used it against the press.

EricTheWeary

I'll give it a wow as well. WTTF has he got against the Daily Mail? You'd think he'd be a fan. 

ICBM

EricTheWeary said:

I'll give it a wow as well. WTTF has he got against the Daily Mail? You'd think he'd be a fan. 

Not right-wing enough possibly. Or simply not in the inner circle of chosen outlets he wants to use to re-educate America.

HAL9000 said:

He who controls the press controls people's thinking. See page 13 of the 'Today's Trumpy Tantrum' thread.

That saves me re-posting that .

Nitefly

This is the way we change the world,
Change the world,
Change the world...


That's some list of people chucked out - but Fox in?  I thought he hated Fox (or was it just their female reporters?)

So now, anything printed by those NOT invited can be instantly repudiated - "You weren't there, you can't comment!".

Clever shit, keeps his own side sweet, and effectively side-lines the "enemy" press.

Rednecks marching in the streets soon - look out, liberals!

HAL9000

ICBM said:

HAL9000 said:

He who controls the press controls people's thinking. See page 13 of the 'Today's Trumpy Tantrum' thread.

That saves me re-posting that .

Sorry @ICBM - not trying to steal your lines.

Emp_Fab

This is starting to look too much like fascism for comfort.

The man is fucking dangerous.  

ThePrettyDamned

Bloody hell. 

The press doesn't help itself though - there is so much bullshit news about that it's been really easy to convince voters that everything is just more lies, even when it's not. 

Pewdiepie was labelled a nazi by the wall street journal and they tried to have him sacked without asking him for comment first - all on the back of very carefully selected, out-of-context jokes (that he has already apologised for but frankly were not that bad, bar one). 

All that has done is show a younger generation that the media, the wall street journal for fuck sake, can't be trusted to provide the news. And the more the media does this, for headlines and click throughs, the easier it will be for thus kind of shit to happen. 

HAL9000

So, the man who exaggerated the size of his inauguration crowds, talked about what happened in 'Sweden last night', and claimed that  Barack Obama wasn't born in the US, is upset by the media organisations which he claims put out fake news.

Heartfeltdawn

Nitefly said:

This is the way we change the world,
Change the world,
Change the world...


That's some list of people chucked out - but Fox in?  I thought he hated Fox (or was it just their female reporters?)

So now, anything printed by those NOT invited can be instantly repudiated - "You weren't there, you can't comment!".

Clever shit, keeps his own side sweet, and effectively side-lines the "enemy" press.

Rednecks marching in the streets soon - look out, liberals!

Fox is in an interesting position. Some elements have been critical of Trump and specific advisors. Shep Smith led the way on that. 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/shep-smith-breaks-down-the-differences-between-cnn-and-fake-news-they-are-not-fake-news/

The hiring of Nigel Farage by Fox was a placating decision. 

Heartfeltdawn

ThePrettyDamned said:

Bloody hell. 

The press doesn't help itself though - there is so much bullshit news about that it's been really easy to convince voters that everything is just more lies, even when it's not. 

Pewdiepie was labelled a nazi by the wall street journal and they tried to have him sacked without asking him for comment first - all on the back of very carefully selected, out-of-context jokes (that he has already apologised for but frankly were not that bad, bar one). 

All that has done is show a younger generation that the media, the wall street journal for fuck sake, can't be trusted to provide the news. And the more the media does this, for headlines and click throughs, the easier it will be for thus kind of shit to happen. 

And you have to ask why the WSJ reacted in the manner that you'd expect from a left-wing newspaper. The WSJ is pro-free market, wasn't a lover of Obama, influential in conservative circles. Spacking off about Pewdiepie in a Graniad manner is quite out of character. 

Myranda

Heartfeltdawn said:

ThePrettyDamned said:

Bloody hell. 

The press doesn't help itself though - there is so much bullshit news about that it's been really easy to convince voters that everything is just more lies, even when it's not. 

Pewdiepie was labelled a nazi by the wall street journal and they tried to have him sacked without asking him for comment first - all on the back of very carefully selected, out-of-context jokes (that he has already apologised for but frankly were not that bad, bar one). 

All that has done is show a younger generation that the media, the wall street journal for fuck sake, can't be trusted to provide the news. And the more the media does this, for headlines and click throughs, the easier it will be for thus kind of shit to happen. 

And you have to ask why the WSJ reacted in the manner that you'd expect from a left-wing newspaper. The WSJ is pro-free market, wasn't a lover of Obama, influential in conservative circles. Spacking off about Pewdiepie in a Graniad manner is quite out of character. 

 And a multi millionaire being paid by Disney should probably make sure his videos don't contain anything antisemitic (if taken out of context) (conversely ... Disney should probably probably not pay people like PewDiePie to make content as he's a bit of a dick when it comes to not thinking through his content...)

WSJ needs to sell copy, and the story probably sold advertising inches ... and PewDiePie hasn't lost out - he's still gaining subscribers faster than he can shed them... his numbers are up over-all he's only lost contracts that having images of what he included (context or not!) would have been yanked from him in time. So everyone gained out of it 

--Edit-- 

Actually, Trump has benefited from the press ... with all the attacks, etc. He has had his face on every paper, every screen and every computer since throwing his hat into the ring - he's only now learning that they don't stop after the election, it's more than his tiny hands can hold and his thin skin can only take so much... so now it's time to begin the purges and putsches to stop the mean men and women saying mean thing to a toddler with nukes

ThePrettyDamned

Myranda said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

ThePrettyDamned said:

Bloody hell. 

The press doesn't help itself though - there is so much bullshit news about that it's been really easy to convince voters that everything is just more lies, even when it's not. 

Pewdiepie was labelled a nazi by the wall street journal and they tried to have him sacked without asking him for comment first - all on the back of very carefully selected, out-of-context jokes (that he has already apologised for but frankly were not that bad, bar one). 

All that has done is show a younger generation that the media, the wall street journal for fuck sake, can't be trusted to provide the news. And the more the media does this, for headlines and click throughs, the easier it will be for thus kind of shit to happen. 

And you have to ask why the WSJ reacted in the manner that you'd expect from a left-wing newspaper. The WSJ is pro-free market, wasn't a lover of Obama, influential in conservative circles. Spacking off about Pewdiepie in a Graniad manner is quite out of character. 

 And a multi millionaire being paid by Disney should probably make sure his videos don't contain anything antisemitic (if taken out of context) (conversely ... Disney should probably probably not pay people like PewDiePie to make content as he's a bit of a dick when it comes to not thinking through his content...)

WSJ needs to sell copy, and the story probably sold advertising inches ... and PewDiePie hasn't lost out - he's still gaining subscribers faster than he can shed them... his numbers are up over-all he's only lost contracts that having images of what he included (context or not!) would have been yanked from him in time. So everyone gained out of it 

--Edit-- 

Actually, Trump has benefited from the press ... with all the attacks, etc. He has had his face on every paper, every screen and every computer since throwing his hat into the ring - he's only now learning that they don't stop after the election, it's more than his tiny hands can hold and his thin skin can only take so much... so now it's time to begin the purges and putsches to stop the mean men and women saying mean thing to a toddler with nukes

Doesn't stop is from being an attempt at character assassination. I agree about Disney, mind - he doesn't seem to fit them...

That's sort of my point - an attempt at assassination that focuses on something small and easily disproven (okay, with trump it's a wee bit different) just boosts the person you're taking down. People focusing on shit trump said or did years ago is meaningless and irrelevant - but it gave him plenty of column inches and a perfect excuse to shut the press down. The fact the news outlets hire people who are hypocrites and have an online record that often contradicts themselves doesn't help either.

Basically, if you're a journo right now,it's a good time to check yourself. If you want to post news, make it good and make it reliably sourced. 

Sambostar

I love this place

blobb

Davy Boy did it better.

Heartfeltdawn

Myranda said:

 And a multi millionaire being paid by Disney should probably make sure his videos don't contain anything antisemitic (if taken out of context) (conversely ... Disney should probably probably not pay people like PewDiePie to make content as he's a bit of a dick when it comes to not thinking through his content...)

WSJ needs to sell copy, and the story probably sold advertising inches ... and PewDiePie hasn't lost out - he's still gaining subscribers faster than he can shed them... his numbers are up over-all he's only lost contracts that having images of what he included (context or not!) would have been yanked from him in time. So everyone gained out of it 

"If taken out of context". Which it was. 

The WSJ sells well. A story about a twatty Youtube gamer is not going to bring them some huge wodge of revenue. 

Garthy

EricTheWeary said:

I'll give it a wow as well. WTTF has he got against the Daily Mail? You'd think he'd be a fan. 

The mail had it coming. It effectively 'trolls' its readership into forwarding links to its website to their contacts. It relies on outraging its readership against a bogey man instead of actually reporting the news. It seems there is a paradox that the 'wake up call' towards politicians that the media have reported over Brexit, Trump, Le Pen, Wilders & Hofer is being ignored by media trying to create news not report the news. The media cannot keep the likes of Trump honest if they get barred from positions because they didn't keep their own houses in order. Hopefully the remaining outlets will check and double check and make sure they do not give this imbecile any justification to ban any more reporters from privileged positions. 

ICBM

HAL9000 said:

Sorry @ICBM - not trying to steal your lines.

I don't mind if you do .

mixolyd

ThePrettyDamned said:

Bloody hell. 

The press doesn't help itself though - there is so much bullshit news about that it's been really easy to convince voters that everything is just more lies, even when it's not. 

Pewdiepie was labelled a nazi by the wall street journal and they tried to have him sacked without asking him for comment first - all on the back of very carefully selected, out-of-context jokes (that he has already apologised for but frankly were not that bad, bar one). 

All that has done is show a younger generation that the media, the wall street journal for fuck sake, can't be trusted to provide the news. And the more the media does this, for headlines and click throughs, the easier it will be for thus kind of shit to happen. 

Rekt.

Sambostar

HAL9000 said:

So, the man who exaggerated the size of his inauguration crowds, talked about what happened in 'Sweden last night', and claimed that  Barack Obama wasn't born in the US, is upset by the media organisations which he claims put out fake news.

Erm, but I think you'll find that t did happen in Sweden, erm....just a few days after he said it happened.