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I'm totally in love with my MJW.
"Please don't stop completely martin unless it's what you want and then stop but on occasion post me an amp"
Yes, @martinw builds great amps. If he does eventually carry on building I'd like another one.
I wasnt being deliberately daft with my question. I have not tried a lot of the boutique versions of already great amps so I don't know what more I'm getting. Its not just tone kings, there are amps like the Carr sportsman that to me seem like a Princeton (which also get good reviews).
Great amps though, my favourite by a way.
The JTM45 is a lovely amp, but it's really not all that loud… which is both good and occasionally bad. The Dual Rec can be crushingly loud if you want it to be, although I'd agree it doesn't have quite as much clean headroom as you might expect a 100W amp to.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
This is a good site for those who want to nerd out on specs
http://www.marstran.com/Historic%20Data%20Base.htm
JTM45 have huge bass, normally for drive tones the bass has to be turned down to stop the farting out, or you can get the bass tightened up in the circuit by a competent tech... think back in black album
For any practical purposes it really makes no difference though - you'll never be able to use a fully-cranked, unattenuated SLP at almost any gig these days unless you're a full-on rock star.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Back In Black wasn't done with a JTM45… http://www.woodytone.com/2011/07/29/more-acdc-deets-recording-amps-gear/
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Yes and he used/uses EL34's
My point was you need the bass tightened up in the JTM45 to get into that ballpark.
It's always seemed odd that people think the BIB sound is a JTM45, or even a Plexi. The reason it's tighter and brighter is because it's a 70s JMP! Quite likely a 2204 or 2203, which are in the photos too - it's always sounded like one to me, not like the older non-MV models.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I have never really researched BIB to any depth, but there are a number of youtube videos of cranked JTM45 with SG's sounding pretty nice though, I thought anyway.
The photo's on the page you linked to looks like a non-master JMP 1987/1959 circa 1976+ in all three photo's, The amp on top in the middle photo looks like a mid 70's 2203.