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The problem about recommending a Rick - even if I thought they were right for everyone, which I certainly don't - is that real ones are expensive, and none of the copies are really (in my opinion) worth having. It's easier to make a Precison very cheaply and have it turn out good than any other bass.
I completely agree about it being Leo's best design too - possibly more even than the Strat.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Problem in all shootouts i've seen is that they record Rays flat, the EQ is there to be added as the coils in parallel are actually quite weak in output. Add bass boost and its big and clear.
Thanks for the recommendations. The Squier VM's do look to be where the value is so probably looking at those.
They don't do a 'P' however, but they do have PJ's, which on paper are the best of both worlds.
http://shop.fender.com/en-GB/squier-electric-basses/precision-bass/vintage-modified-precision-bass-pj/0306800500.html#cgid= squier-electric-basses&start=1
Although significantly cheaper there is a Jaguar Special PJ bass which I may try. £220 vs £355 of the Precision PJ above.
http://shop.fender.com/en-GB/squier-electric-basses/jaguar-bass/vintage-modified-jaguar-bass-special/0328900500.html#cgid= squier-electric-basses&start=1
I like the look of the Classic Vibe P, but it's out of budget
Another option I'll try is the affinity series, which if they play nice could be a good base to upgrade the pickups to some OOil City or Mojo's etc.
Ultimately I'll just get out and play some....
Besides any minor differences caused by magnetism from an extra pickup on the strings, the P pickup should sound identical on a P vs a PJ, so you shouldn't lose anything by having the options.
They do 2, the special posted above is 34" full scale. But yeah, definitely don't want short scale!
Thanks, yes I have read that, will check it out, It would put me off to be honest.
What's the difference in neck shape?
I like chunky necks.
Liking a chunky guitar neck may or may not be a reason you prefer either neck, the width and string spacing makes a bigger difference to the playing feel between the two IME (until you get to the extremes of thick and thin of course).
I can play most 4 string bass necks I've tried, though I'm more immediately comfortable on the Jazz neck shape.
If you are going to play bass properly, then it should always be thumb behind, not hooked over the top.. with this in mind, go and try different basses in person and make sure you try them in this position (not in a guitar grip)
Everyones preference is different. For me, the wider and slimmer, the better...
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
...never mind. You know what I'm going to say .
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
And there's no substitute for girth