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ditto #56 - Fender Flame and again I bet it will sell for more than the guide line price
#88 - Trussart - if it goes for guide line prices then someone gets a great deal
#102 + #140 #178/9 - for @HarrySeven
look at #158 ???????????????????
#245 might be okay - modded Burny
A lot of dealers seem to just buy stuff at market value and then try and sell it for two or three times that.
(formerly miserneil)
I was looking at an old '54 Esquire the other day that was £10k....the seller couldn't be sure if it was really a blackguard era guitar or a white guard due to an unreadable date, yet he was selling it as a blackguard and someone bought it pretty swiftly. Seems to me there are more 50-54 blackguard guitars out there than Fender really made...there's several on sale here in the UK at the moment....ranging anywhere between £10,000 and £18,000.
I do admire the nerve of NGC, Atoyboy et al, these guitars are well documented on the GH website and on eBay where most of their stock come from, for the prices they paid, so any potential buyer (who would be CRAZY not to research the guitar on the net before buying it) can easily see what they paid for it and the mark up the dealers are hoping to achieve. In my opinion, the only purpose these dealers serve is to try and keep the vintage market prices inflated to a level they have long since failed to achieve.
That said, in Atoyboy's case, they seem to sell so perhaps he's catering for a different market?
(formerly miserneil)
Over the years, I've developed a healthy dislike for GH and their auctions. I can barely be arsed to look at their catalogues nowadays.
HarrySeven - Intangible Asset Appraiser & Wrecker of Civilisation. Searching for weird guitars - so you don't have to.
Forum feedback thread. | G&B interview #1 & #2 | https://www.instagram.com/_harry_seven_/
This is the thinking behind it. If a collector wants something badly enough they will dig deeper for it. This is why its always the vintage stuff or other rare items, and not the bog standard gear.
Its easy to laugh at dealers asking high prices, but when they sell who has the last laugh?
In answer to your first point - you see the same thing (on a different economy of scale on most music-gear sales-oriented Facebook groups), day-in, day-out. Bedroom dealers buy an item one week (on Facebook, Gumtree, etc) for '£X' amount, then attempt to sell it the following day/week for '£XXX' amount.
One such character recently purchased a guitar for £49 on Gumtree, then re-advertised it the day after at £250 on the local Facebook group. Brass neck. It's entirely up to people what they chose to sell at, but in this day and age, tracking sales is easy.
Re. Second point - couldn't agree more.
HarrySeven - Intangible Asset Appraiser & Wrecker of Civilisation. Searching for weird guitars - so you don't have to.
Forum feedback thread. | G&B interview #1 & #2 | https://www.instagram.com/_harry_seven_/
I'm tempted to do it....
(formerly miserneil)
Edit: think this is it.
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/gardiner-houlgate/catalogue-id-srgard10070