Different Temperaments on digital pianos

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  • vizviz Frets: 10693
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    Conventional piano tuning is "stretched" as it gets sharper up the dusty end, and flatter down the bass end.

    Well blow me I never knew that!
    ahh, I assumed you'd heard of that
    that's why my piano switches off the stretch when you layer it with strings or whatever

    I suppose a piano in a band should also avoid stretched tuning for the same reason?
    Well, you would only really have the choice if you had an electronic keyboard......

    I expect a lot of the tonality of various instruments is down to the compromises in tuning.

    Interestingly I play in a band where the piano player has perfect pitch and says he can hear the differences in tuning across the keyboard. 

    Oh absolutely. I’m sure he (indeed any musician) can hear the differences between temperaments on a keyboard - the intervals sound massively different. That’s why the well-tempered clavier is so brilliant when played on a 1/4 comma meantone instrument, because the flavours of each key are so distinctive. (Check out Schubart’s writings on it - if anyone’s interested)

    However I wonder whether others with PP can hear the difference between middle C’s 12-TET 261.6, the Just 264 and the 1/4 comma’s 263.2 when C is played in isolation. I certainly can’t. 

    Presumably there are different levels of perfect pitch, in so far as the absolute accuracy of pitch determination.

    To recognize individual notes wouldn't actually require that level of accuracy compared to being able to tell the difference between C 262.6 and C 264.

    A friend of mine can hear the difference between A440 and A443, which is what many european orchestras tune to with no external reference.

    Stevie Wonder, who has perfect pitch, also tunes to A443.

    Another friend of mine was playing guitar with an artist who was recording with the Metropole Orchestra. They tune to A443, and the conductor (who was the youngest conductor of a major orchestra in Europe), has perfect pitch, but recognizes A443.

    Interestingly my friend, who has an excellent ear and can tune the top string of his guitar to E by ear but does not perfect pitch, after a week of recording at A443 then adjusted and with no external reference would tune his top E sharper to A443.


    That’s amazing! I’m definitely not in that camp! I will always sing / recognise the right note though, plus or minus about quarter of a semitone or so. 
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