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If it's for recording then one option would be to record without the effect then render the pitch shifted track to a stem. You can then move the stem to line it up in time.
What ive done is add the fx to a track and unticked them ie rea pitch, bass amp etc . (adjusted settings to suit previously) . Then when i have recorded the bass (using a strat guitar) i tick the fx on the track and tweak etc. Is this a correct way to do it?
what is a stem?
I am currently working through the Kenny Gioia reaper tutorial vids but yet to learn about a stem. I will leave the latency issue alone as you say its unavoidable.
So if there's a constant latency you can render the track into a new stem and manually shift it so that the latency is accounted for. You can then do further edits on the new stem. If the latency varies from note to note then you'd have a lot of work to do to get everything to line up and it wouldn't be worth it.
I'm not a big enough authority on Reaper to say it's totally unavoidable but I think you would have problems because it's down to the analysis of the note in the software rather than the interface. It's also an issue with pitch shift pedals - as the intervals get bigger the latency increases because there's more work to be done.
Roland's suggestion of adding a short bit of the dry signal would mask the delay that but I don't know if that can be done in Reaper.
But don't spend to much time on it - If you're trying to pitch shift a guitar to get it to sound like a real bass guitar then it won't. It'll sound rubbish. It'll be much better to use a real bass (even the shittiest cheapest one) or a vst bass plugin and midi.
I don't really know much about midi either but I have a trick I use for making a midi bass line, although it only works with midi drums.
- Make a new midi bass instrument
- Copy and paste your midi drum pattern on to the midi bass track.
- Delete the notes that triggered the high hats / cymbals etc on the drum track, leaving only the kick and snare.
- bring the kick and snare pattern on to one single "line" on the midi track and then move it until it matches up with the root note of whatever chord you're playing over.
It's not the best method, but at least you will have some low end on your track and it's better than having a bass playing constant 8th or 16th notes on every track.
I use this technique on all my ROTM entries.
I don't know much about fixing stuff up for your original question, but please don't worry about not knowing enough about all of this stuff - it's a steep learning curve and even folks that know roughly what they are doing are always learning. That's why you ask here for people's help, no need to feel silly for having to ask mate. It's a bloody minefield but you're in the right place to get the help!
What you could do is get the cheapest mono octave down pedal you can find, and play through that into the interface? Would reduce the processing work the computer is having to do
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Some octave pedals aren't great at tracking either, especially the cheaper ones. The Boss OC-3 is good as is the EHX Pitchfork from my experience. Digitech Drop is king of them all IMO.
I can see how it could help.
Re: pitch shift pedals - the cheap ones have bad latency at a full octave setting. Older Whammy pedals are dreadful at the full octave. I have a pitchfork which is much better but still wouldn't use it for a bass effect as the latency is noticeable at larger intervals. I haven't tried the digitech drop but I'd expect a bit of latency too. EHX pog has amazing tracking at a full octave but you could get a decent second hand bass guitar for the same price as one of those
Thanks for your kind words mate, much appreciate all the help from here.