Guitar terms you refuse to use

octatonic

Alnico said:

octatonic said:

One thing that annoys me with musicians in general is when they mix sharps and flats.

It happened in a rehearsal recently, the band was playing in Eb and a minor 3rd up was Gb but it was described by someone as being F#.
I know I'm being snobby about it but it really winds me up.

Serious question....

I would have called that F#.
Should it be Gb or does it depend what Key/Mode you're using at the time?

It can be confusing- it can be key but really it comes down to use/function.
The way I explain it to students is using two chords: a minor 7 and a dominant 7 #9.
In the key of Eb major you have the following notes:

Eb F G Ab Bb C D.
F# isn't the minor 3rd of Eb, it is the augmented 2nd, or the sharp 9.
So an Eb minor 7 chord will have the notes Eb G Bb Db.
An Eb7#9 will have the notes Eb G Bb Db F#.
So although you play the F#/Gb at the same place on the neck you don't play an F# in Eb minor 7 it is Gb and you don't play Gb in an Eb7#9, it is F#.

usedtobe

If you're typing guitar terms that you refuse to use, into this thread, aren't you using them..?

Babones

"case candy"

octatonic

"Wires" meaning either strings or guitar lead.

octatonic

I'm also a stickler for people misusing 'jack'.
A jack is a hole.

This is a plug:

This is a jack or socket (or, if you must, a jack socket):

fandango

ICBM said:

scrumhalf said:

Rare.

Just because you want to sell it and the shop windows aren't crammed with the same model does not make it rare. It may be uncommon, it's rarely rare.

And more importantly, it certainly doesn't make it valuable. I have a very 'rare' guitar - an Aria RS Standard from 1984. It took me nearly twenty years of searching to find another to replace my original, and even then I had to import it from the USA.

It's also probably only worth about £250.

Rare? Like a Morris Ital, with less than 30 (thirty) left registered in the UK? That's rare, yes? Or the Austin Ambassador with less than 20? Even rarer, but would you buy one because of it?

wackojacko

"She" 
also anyone who names their guitars. Get a grip.

viz

mike_l said:

@Alnico said:

Or avoid the whole issue completely and give it the correct chord name - a minor 3rd.

As in, "you need to play the minor 3rd there.."

Cool.
More for my learning curve.

Thanks guys.

except where it's not a minor 3rd.......

Exactly! Eb minor is an odd one, because it has 6 flats, and D# minor has 6 sharps. They're at the bottom of the Cof5. Normally you call the relative major key F# major rather than Gb, so you'd expect the relative minor key to be D# minor. 

Be that as it may, Eb minor is just as common and is actually quite a good minor key on the piano, so, assuming we're talking Eb minor, then the reason why the minor 3rd is Gb not F# is

a) as has been said, because all the notes in the Eb minor scale are flats (apart from F),

but also b) because if you count up the alphabet till you get to the 3rd, you go E ... F .... G. So the 3rd MUST be a G something, it cannot possibly be an F something, because F is already used up for the 2nd note. The rule is, one letter per note. 

freakboy1610

Noodling pups, spanking my wang bar with my tech. Hang on, what forum is this?

underdog

wackojacko said:

"She" 
also anyone who names their guitars. Get a grip.

Couldn't agree more, it's embarrassing

richardhomer

"The best guitar I've ever owned" - in a 'for sale' ad.

See also "I'm probably going to regret this"....

carlos

Beast of a guitar

prowla

"Brand spanking new" - what the heck does "spanking" mean?

"Lawsuit" - you mean an old copy guitar.

"Plays like butter" - yeech!

"Road worn" - you mean sandpapered?

"She" - isn't a guitar supposed to be a phallic symbol?

"Rare" - there may be a reason why they didn't sell well.

"Vintage" - past its best.

"Matsumoku?" - not Matsumoku.

"Fender" - probably a Squier with a fake logo.

"Squire" - it's Squier, Squier, SQUIER!!!!

"Rockinbetter" - better than what, precisely?

slacker

Bargain

Tube

Tube Watts/Solid State Watts

Dime

Will sell

Hot Rod Deluxe (it isnt a Deluxe) 

Best Price-If I advertise a guitar for £300 when it retails at £600 and someone asks me my best price , I'll say £600. 

ICBM

fandango said:

Rare? Like a Morris Ital, with less than 30 (thirty) left registered in the UK? That's rare, yes? Or the Austin Ambassador with less than 20? Even rarer, but would you buy one because of it?

My point exactly. In fact the rarer these become, the better probably!

Bridgehouse

Possibly FS/FT Feeler - I've got this rare, roadworn, brand spanking new vintage lawsuit-era Fender Rockinbetter Lester axe, which might be Matsumoku (I've been told) which I'm selling on behalf of a friend who is thinning the herd. 

It's the best guitar I've ever owned, and I'll regret this, but she's got to go to pay for bills. The 'bucker pups are original, it plays like butter and it's had new wires last week. It's got the tones, and it's got all her case candy in place. Proper shred-monster with the wang bar and all. 

My personal Tech has seen to it, and so it's well sorted.

Don't ask any questions as I don't know anything about guitars.

richardhomer

Bridgehouse said:

Possibly FS/FT Feeler - I've got this rare, roadworn, brand spanking new vintage lawsuit-era Fender Rockinbetter Lester axe, which might be Matsumoku (I've been told) which I'm selling on behalf of a friend who is thinning the herd. 

It's the best guitar I've ever owned, and I'll regret this, but she's got to go to pay for bills. The 'bucker pups are original, it plays like butter and it's had new wires last week. It's got the tones, and it's got all her case candy in place. Proper shred-monster with the wang bar and all. 

My personal Tech has seen to it, and so it's well sorted.

Don't ask any questions as I don't know anything about guitars.

Trades for a Terry Morgan?

skunkwerx

Boutique. 
Fucking unsure on that. 

Creamy. 

When Zakk Wylde calls his axes 'fiddles'.. 
(See my use of axe?) 

Cord (when talking about a guitar lead). However its almost acceptable if 'guitar' precedes it. 

Tuning pegs. 

Buckle rash. 

Plays like butter. 

Philly_Q

Stevepage said:

Organic. urgh!

God, yes.  A word extremely over-used on the Bare Knuckle Pickups forum.  What in the name of god is it supposed to mean?

It always made me imagine some weird fucking thing made out of meat, like something out of a David Cronenberg film.

Bridgehouse

richardhomer said:

Bridgehouse said:

Possibly FS/FT Feeler - I've got this rare, roadworn, brand spanking new vintage lawsuit-era Fender Rockinbetter Lester axe, which might be Matsumoku (I've been told) which I'm selling on behalf of a friend who is thinning the herd. 

It's the best guitar I've ever owned, and I'll regret this, but she's got to go to pay for bills. The 'bucker pups are original, it plays like butter and it's had new wires last week. It's got the tones, and it's got all her case candy in place. Proper shred-monster with the wang bar and all. 

My personal Tech has seen to it, and so it's well sorted.

Don't ask any questions as I don't know anything about guitars.

Trades for a Terry Morgan?

How organic is it?