A handy de-flubbing trick without needing an EQ pedal

noisepolluter

...which I’ve only just realised despite in hindsight being embarrassingly obvious...

Dropping the guitar volume to about a third so that the treble bleed cap thins it out, then using a simple nano-sized boost pedal to bring it back up to the original volume.

Works an absolute treat to get more clarity through a drive pedal without adding treble to the distortion itself, or just as a different guitar voicing

And I’ve been playing how many years...? Ahem... nothing to see here, move along...

Sassafras

I do it by only using single coils.

Funkfingers

noisepolluter said:

... the treble bleed cap ...

Firstly, it is a treble bypass NOT a treble bleed. 

Secondly, whatever people call it, I don't use them.

Thirdly, the apparent need to "de-flubb" suggests that all is not well with one's guitar/pedals/amp combination.

impmann

Funkfingers said:

noisepolluter said:

... the treble bleed cap ...

Firstly, it is a treble bypass NOT a treble bleed. 

Secondly, whatever people call it, I don't use them.

Thirdly, the apparent need to "de-flubb" suggests that all is not well with one's guitar/pedals/amp combination.

That’s helpful! ;-)

Whatever works to get a sound you like is valid. 

Sassafras

Funkfingers said:

noisepolluter said:

... the treble bleed cap ...

Firstly, it is a treble bypass NOT a treble bleed. 

That's him told!
  

flying_pie

Here's one simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Buy a treble bleed mod kit
2. Eiither install it yourself or hand it to a shop for a couple of weeks 
3. Adjust the volume pot to the desired level
4. Buy a boost pedal
5. Use the boost to bring back the level to a desirable one 
6. Enjoy your guitar sound 


And here's another simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Use an EQ pedal 

:-)

Joking aside I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you. There are loads of different ways of going about it and it's the end result that matters. But I don't see what's wrong with just using an EQ pedal! 

richardhomer

flying_pie said:

Here's one simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Buy a treble bleed mod kit
2. Eiither install it yourself or hand it to a shop for a couple of weeks 
3. Adjust the volume pot to the desired level
4. Buy a boost pedal
5. Use the boost to bring back the level to a desirable one 
6. Enjoy your guitar sound 


And here's another simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Use an EQ pedal 

:-)

Joking aside I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you. There are loads of different ways of going about it and it's the end result that matters. But I don't see what's wrong with just using an EQ pedal! 

Or turn the bass down on your amp....

flying_pie

richardhomer said:

flying_pie said:

Here's one simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Buy a treble bleed mod kit
2. Eiither install it yourself or hand it to a shop for a couple of weeks 
3. Adjust the volume pot to the desired level
4. Buy a boost pedal
5. Use the boost to bring back the level to a desirable one 
6. Enjoy your guitar sound 


And here's another simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Use an EQ pedal 

:-)

Joking aside I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you. There are loads of different ways of going about it and it's the end result that matters. But I don't see what's wrong with just using an EQ pedal! 

Or turn the bass down on your amp....

Unless your amp is a Mesa Boogie and you can't turn the bass down any further in which case you'll need an EQ...

flying_pie

I wonder if Misha Mansoor from Periphery frequents this forum... I'm sure he'd have a solution for getting geat guitar sound involving purchasing his new signature guitar, with the latest signature pickups and whatever pedal he's just put his name to... 

maltingsaudio

flying_pie said:

richardhomer said:

flying_pie said:

Here's one simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Buy a treble bleed mod kit
2. Eiither install it yourself or hand it to a shop for a couple of weeks 
3. Adjust the volume pot to the desired level
4. Buy a boost pedal
5. Use the boost to bring back the level to a desirable one 
6. Enjoy your guitar sound 


And here's another simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Use an EQ pedal 

:-)

Joking aside I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you. There are loads of different ways of going about it and it's the end result that matters. But I don't see what's wrong with just using an EQ pedal! 

Or turn the bass down on your amp....

Unless your amp is a Mesa Boogie and you can't turn the bass down any further in which case you'll need an EQ...

Too much bass in your sound and can’t eq it out ? Use a smaller speaker 10” or 8” 
Thing about this thread is don’t ever stop tweaking and turning knobs on your kit (ooh err missus) you’ll never know what sounds you’ll find. 

crunchman

flying_pie said:

richardhomer said:

flying_pie said:

Here's one simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Buy a treble bleed mod kit
2. Eiither install it yourself or hand it to a shop for a couple of weeks 
3. Adjust the volume pot to the desired level
4. Buy a boost pedal
5. Use the boost to bring back the level to a desirable one 
6. Enjoy your guitar sound 


And here's another simple trick to deflubb your guitar sound:

1. Use an EQ pedal 

:-)

Joking aside I'm glad you've found a solution that works for you. There are loads of different ways of going about it and it's the end result that matters. But I don't see what's wrong with just using an EQ pedal! 

Or turn the bass down on your amp....

Unless your amp is a Mesa Boogie and you can't turn the bass down any further in which case you'll need an EQ...

Get a better amp then.

stickyfiddle

I've always just set everything to give me the maximum amount of treble I want when my vol and tone are on full, then spent more time with the tone knob on 8 when less than 100% treble is needed. 

I can't be the only one?

Voxman

If you want to deflub, get yourself a BBE Sonic Stomp Maximiser. You won't believe the change and how it adds clarity to cut through the mix.  In simple terms, your guitar amp speakers are inefficient and trying to process all the frequencies thrown at them all at the same time. The BBESSM splits the higher and lower frequencies such that these are hitting your speaker at fractionally different times allowing your speakers to catch their breath so to speak and process the higher and lower frequencies more efficiently. The result is greater clarity and punch.  There are some excellent vids and explanations on YouTube.

It's not an EQ pedal. Once you switch it on you will completely forget it's there and even wonder if it's doing anything...until you switch it off and realise how flubby your sound is without it.  Can be used in the fx loop or direct ... best position will depend on your amp and fx loop.

One of the cleverest and most underrated and essential pedals out there. 

sixwheeltyrrel

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

noisepolluter

The flub in question was when switching between between strat bridge/neck and the in-between positions (if that is indeed the correct term - if I have misspoke I must quite rightly be flogged round the fleet - pass the word for the bosun and the cat o’ nine tails). When one selection was dialled in to my liking, the other would be too dark or too bright, and I didn’t want to be chasing the pedal and amp treble/bass controls around, but I can just about roll the guitar volume back and lash out in the general direction of the boost footswitch without losing my place in the song.

The background to this is me deciding to limit myself to one drive pedal and properly apply myself to working with it rather than swapping pedals in pursuit of some imagined ideal tone which in my case tends to be a self-perpetuating excersise in frustration.

It’s also about me accepting that playing my rig at home is a compromise anyway.

I do take the point about the EQ - however for me this is about working with what I already have, and seeing what I can get away with on the board that still gives me the sounds I’m likely to need. It was all starting to get a bit swappy and I suddenly felt the overpowering need to leave the damn thing alone.

flying_pie

@crunchman thanks but I don't need one

(and I don't own a Mesa - it was just to illustrate a point) 

p90fool

sixwheeltyrrel said:

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

Don't worry, I don't have a clue either. 

noisepolluter

p90fool said:

sixwheeltyrrel said:

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

Don't worry, I don't have a clue either. 

Oh, it’s most definitely a thing and I haven’t imagined it. Possibly onomatopoeic.

p90fool

noisepolluter said:

p90fool said:

sixwheeltyrrel said:

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

Don't worry, I don't have a clue either. 

Oh, it’s most definitely a thing and I haven’t imagined it. Possibly onomatopoeic.

I don't doubt it, I just have no idea what you're talking about.
I've only ever heard it used in the context of running a Princeton flat out, I definitely know what that means!

JezWynd

sixwheeltyrrel said:

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

Me too. It might help if I understood what 'flubbing' is.

noisepolluter

p90fool said:

noisepolluter said:

p90fool said:

sixwheeltyrrel said:

I'm not grasping what "de-flubbing" actually means. Could someone please explain?

Don't worry, I don't have a clue either. 

Oh, it’s most definitely a thing and I haven’t imagined it. Possibly onomatopoeic.

I don't doubt it, I just have no idea what you're talking about.

That’s never stopped me.