Native English speakers

Winny_Pooh

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20161028-native-english-speakers-are-the-worlds-worst-communicators

stickyfiddle

I'm sorry, I don't understand. CAN YOU SAY IT SLOWER AND LOUDER?

CHRISB50

M8.

Low dat.

U dont no wot ure chattin bout

Phil_aka_Pip

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Rocker

The last section of the article is the most important. Say what you mean in a few different ways and ask for responses.

chillidoggy

Winny_Pooh said:

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20161028-native-english-speakers-are-the-worlds-worst-communicators

Bloody foreigners, coming over here, hijacking our language.....

57Deluxe

these dialects remind me of toddlers learning to speak...

phrases like:

'I wan Mash toe-toe'

Amberlance

Wing-scream wipers

Chimleys

Hambag

lickstip

So users of these 'dialects' are all basically idiots who have the mental agility of a 2 year old

Phil_aka_Pip

57Deluxe said:

So users of these 'dialects' are all basically idiots who have the mental agility of a 2 year old

seems like a reasonable conclusion to me

thermionic

Phil_aka_Pip said:

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Tannoys have been Scottish since the 1970s

Phil_aka_Pip

thermionic said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Tannoys have been Scottish since the 1970s

have they really? I didn't know that. They sure started off English though. ylsned

Fretwired

When such misunderstandings happen, it’s usually the native speakers who are to blame.

Rubbish. In the example in the article the person who didn't understand should have asked for clarification not just flipped a coin over two possible meetings. I worked in Denmark and the company language was English - it was drummed into people always seek clarification if you're unsure  and for native speakers write short concise sentences to remove any ambiguity.

57Deluxe

thermionic said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Tannoys have been Scottish since the 1970s

Ooer - reminds me, I need to catch up on this week's Two Doors Down on the iPlayer... Thanks

Phil_aka_Pip

thermionic said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Tannoys have been Scottish since the 1970s

Did a google and found more Tannoy history I didn't know:
The company moved production to Coatsbridge, Scotland. That could have left the company being English (did they move their registered address?), but in any case merged with Goodmans in 1987 to form TGI, which then got bought by TC International in 2002, so by rights they became a Danish company. Then MUSIC Tribe bought TC in 2015 ...

Kilgore

I'm my office we have training resources for dealing with issues arising from non native English speakers in the work place.






A box set of Fawlty Towers.

usedtobe

thermionic said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

KEFs, Tannoys, B&Ws, they're all English speakers and I like 'em

Tannoys have been Scottish since the 1970s

The Scots speak English, though, tbf..

Phil_aka_Pip

Kilgore said:

I'm my office we have training resources for dealing with issues arising from non native English speakers in the work place.






A box set of Fawlty Towers.

he he ... did you ever see John Cleese in "The Selling Line" (a series of "motivational" programmes aimed at sales people). We had them on videotape in the Library when I was a student back in the late 70s.

ICBM

usedtobe said:

The Scots speak English, though, tbf..

You haven’t been to Glasgow, have you?

mart

ICBM said:

usedtobe said:

The Scots speak English, though, tbf..

You haven’t been to Glasgow, have you?

Or Aberdeen, or Buckie, to pick the most extremely incomprehensible “english” I’ve ever heard. At least in Glasgae it’s basically only the accent you’ve got to worry about, not the dialect words, lune.

stephen.wood125

I freely admit I have a propensity or even a predilection for overly garrulous prose bordering on grandiloquence, and my recalcitrance to rephrase is often cited as obfuscation, however I think in this case the generalisation that we are the worst communicators is a classic post hoc ergo propter hoc extrapolation verging on floccinaucinihilipilification *gets coat*

stephen.wood125

On a more serious note, as much as I love etymology and speak a few languages, I was always taught if you can't express an idea clearly and succinctly you either don't understand it well enough or you feel you have something to prove.

Clarky

57Deluxe said:

these dialects remind me of toddlers learning to speak...

phrases like:

'I wan Mash toe-toe'

Amberlance

Wing-scream wipers

Chimleys

Hambag

lickstip

So users of these 'dialects' are all basically idiots who have the mental agility of a 2 year old

took a book back to the libree in Januree