Can anyone please explain to me

Rocker

how anyone can deem F1 'racing' a sport? An endless procession of cars looping a track, almost no overtaking or racing as most of us would define racing. At least with rally driving, everyone, theoretically, has the same chance of winning as they all drive the same circuit with a clear road in front.

TheBigDipper

Not me. I've got a friend who loves it and really enjoys the tactical side of the whole thing. I prefer MotoGP myself. Yes, there is a difference between machines and some teams have better bikes than others (just like rallying, mind...) but there's often plenty of overtaking and close racing. The days of one rider vanishing off into the distance aren't so common, these days. It doesn't get decided by the safety car and pit stops. Moto3 is even better, as the bikes are more matched and the riders are young enough to be fearless. 

poopot

It’s still better than watching 22 millionaires kicking a leather balloon about whilst 20000 people cheer them on!

Iamnobody

poopot said:

It’s still better than watching 22 millionaires kicking a leather balloon about whilst 20000 people cheer them on!

I disagree both are boring.

not_the_dj

I’m not disagreeing as F1 can be so dull, today highlighted that with no one able to overtake. 

Still comparing it to WRC, Ogier has won the championship the last 5 times, and before him wasn’t it 9 years for Loab? Even more dominant than the recent F1 winners. 

For great fun close (4 wheel) racing look at the World Rally Cross, brilliant stuff. Even Touring Cars has much more wheel to wheel action than F1, sometimes enhanced by success ballast and reverse grids, but the on track action is super. 

VimFuego

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Sporky

More of a sport than that thing where you recognised someone, but halfway to saying hello you realise that you don't like them at all and have to work out how to get out of the situation gracefully.

HAL9000

Boring sports...

   Cricket

   Anything where marks are awarded for artistic impression such as synchronised swimming, figure skating, etc.

   Any 'sports' done to music (see above)

Phil_aka_Pip

apparently bridge didn't get recognised as a sport. However I reckon it could be a lot more interesting than most sports.

PC_Dave

Rocker said:

how anyone can deem F1 'racing' a sport? An endless procession of cars looping a track, almost no overtaking or racing as most of us would define racing. At least with rally driving, everyone, theoretically, has the same chance of winning as they all drive the same circuit with a clear road in front.

You don’t have to watch it, you know.... 

sinbaadi

Not sure where it says a sport has to entertain to be a sport.

F1 is sticking to its guns on so many things, and this is at a cost to the entertainment factor, but of course its a sport.

Funkfingers

VimFuego said:

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Not so.

By definition, a *sport* involves cruelty to animals and the making of wagers.

Thus, horse racing is a sport. Greyhound racing is a sport. Hare coursing is a sport. Boxing is a sport. Proper amateur Rugby Union Football is a sport. 

Association Football ceased to be a sport in the Nineteenth century, once it was codified. The old-fashioned version, with mobs from adjoining villages kicking the shit out of each other of an afternoon, was a sport.

Formula One motor racing ceased to be much fun once the cars became half as wide as the track. Motorcycle racing - even with sidecars - remains interesting because overtaking is still possible, as is the risk of sudden death.

sinbaadi

Funkfingers said:

VimFuego said:

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Not so.

By definition, a *sport* involves cruelty to animals and the making of wagers.

Thus, horse racing is a sport. Greyhound racing is a sport. Hare coursing is a sport. Boxing is a sport. Proper amateur Rugby Union Football is a sport. 

Association Football ceased to be a sport in the Nineteenth century, once it was codified. The old-fashioned version, with mobs from adjoining villages kicking the shit out of each other of an afternoon, was a sport.

Formula One motor racing ceased to be much fun once the cars became half as wide as the track. Motorcycle racing - even with sidecars - remains interesting because overtaking is still possible, as is the risk of sudden death.

By what definition?  An ancient one if any at all and probably not even directly based on the origin of the word anyway.

EricTheWeary

I watched the end. They said Hamilton lost because there was a software glitch in the virtual safety car. Gripping stuff.

I did go see a formula 1 exhibition race thingy once. Wow it was loud, really quite amazing. But very hard to follow as they went by you so quickly. Once you’d gone ooh that’s quick that was about it. 

VimFuego

Funkfingers said:

VimFuego said:

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Not so.

By definition, a *sport* involves cruelty to animals and the making of wagers.

Thus, horse racing is a sport. Greyhound racing is a sport. Hare coursing is a sport. Boxing is a sport. Proper amateur Rugby Union Football is a sport. 

Association Football ceased to be a sport in the Nineteenth century, once it was codified. The old-fashioned version, with mobs from adjoining villages kicking the shit out of each other of an afternoon, was a sport.

Formula One motor racing ceased to be much fun once the cars became half as wide as the track. Motorcycle racing - even with sidecars - remains interesting because overtaking is still possible, as is the risk of sudden death.

by that definition golf is certainly a sport. Well it is if you incorporate some minor rule adjustments I developed; mainly, snipers hidden in bushes taking pot shots at the golfers. 
Admittedly, using rifles is not especially sporting, but in the UK it is illegal to hunt with long bows. 

Fretwired

VimFuego said:

Funkfingers said:

VimFuego said:

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Not so.

By definition, a *sport* involves cruelty to animals and the making of wagers.

Thus, horse racing is a sport. Greyhound racing is a sport. Hare coursing is a sport. Boxing is a sport. Proper amateur Rugby Union Football is a sport. 

Association Football ceased to be a sport in the Nineteenth century, once it was codified. The old-fashioned version, with mobs from adjoining villages kicking the shit out of each other of an afternoon, was a sport.

Formula One motor racing ceased to be much fun once the cars became half as wide as the track. Motorcycle racing - even with sidecars - remains interesting because overtaking is still possible, as is the risk of sudden death.

by that definition golf is certainly a sport. Well it is if you incorporate some minor rule adjustments I developed; mainly, snipers hidden in bushes taking pot shots at the golfers. 
Admittedly, using rifles is not especially sporting, but in the UK it is illegal to hunt with long bows. 

Add some mortars to create new bunkers and add some shock and awe ... and exploding balls.

VimFuego

Fretwired said:

VimFuego said:

Funkfingers said:

VimFuego said:

more of a sport than watching a bunch of horses running round a track getting whipped and occasionally shot. 

Not so.

By definition, a *sport* involves cruelty to animals and the making of wagers.

Thus, horse racing is a sport. Greyhound racing is a sport. Hare coursing is a sport. Boxing is a sport. Proper amateur Rugby Union Football is a sport. 

Association Football ceased to be a sport in the Nineteenth century, once it was codified. The old-fashioned version, with mobs from adjoining villages kicking the shit out of each other of an afternoon, was a sport.

Formula One motor racing ceased to be much fun once the cars became half as wide as the track. Motorcycle racing - even with sidecars - remains interesting because overtaking is still possible, as is the risk of sudden death.

by that definition golf is certainly a sport. Well it is if you incorporate some minor rule adjustments I developed; mainly, snipers hidden in bushes taking pot shots at the golfers. 
Admittedly, using rifles is not especially sporting, but in the UK it is illegal to hunt with long bows. 

Add some mortars to create new bunkers and add some shock and awe ... and exploding balls.

and the bunkers would give the golfers a sporting chance, I'm seeing potential here. 

Fretwired

Rocker said:

how anyone can deem F1 'racing' a sport? An endless procession of cars looping a track, almost no overtaking or racing as most of us would define racing. At least with rally driving, everyone, theoretically, has the same chance of winning as they all drive the same circuit with a clear road in front.

We discussed this on here a few years ago and suggested the tracks fitted sprinklers. If the race is boring then the race officials can turn on the sprinklers and soak the track and then close the pit lane .... that should sort the men out from the boys ..

not_the_dj

Jumps, add jumps. 

https://youtu.be/ZlKRK2QqtaY

57Deluxe

Yeah but will be even more intriguing when Google enters F1 with their driverless car!

Fretwired

not_the_dj said:

Jumps, add jumps. 

https://youtu.be/ZlKRK2QqtaY

wtf am I watching .. it's addictive ... :-)