Bargain. Dumble content.....

RiftAmps

The price commanded by the seller is not based on the actual value of the cable itself, but by the potential value lost by an owner if his original Dumble Head and Cab doesn't have the original.

Collectors demand originality, and that comes with a price (or penalty in this case). People will pay £5k for an original M-69 pickup ring from a 1959 Burst if it means their one is back to full originality - get your head around that one!

*On a personal note, I think it's all very silly*

Bridgehouse

RiftAmps said:

The price commanded by the seller is not based on the actual value of the cable itself, but by the potential value lost by an owner if his original Dumble Head and Cab doesn't have the original.

Collectors demand originality, and that comes with a price (or penalty in this case). People will pay £5k for an original M-69 pickup ring from a 1959 Burst if it means their one is back to full originality - get your head around that one!

*On a personal note, I think it's all very silly*

The more you think about this, the more ridiculous it is..

”I will lose out £1500 if I don’t have the original cable for my dumble head and amp, so I’m going to pay £1500 for a replacement and fob off the buyer that it’s the original cable”

lol. 

RiftAmps

Bridgehouse said:

RiftAmps said:

The price commanded by the seller is not based on the actual value of the cable itself, but by the potential value lost by an owner if his original Dumble Head and Cab doesn't have the original.

Collectors demand originality, and that comes with a price (or penalty in this case). People will pay £5k for an original M-69 pickup ring from a 1959 Burst if it means their one is back to full originality - get your head around that one!

*On a personal note, I think it's all very silly*

The more you think about this, the more ridiculous it is..

”I will lose out £1500 if I don’t have the original cable for my dumble head and amp, so I’m going to pay £1500 for a replacement and fob off the buyer that it’s the original cable”

lol. 

I actually think the loss value is higher than the item price, eg amp is worth £2k less without it so £1500 suddenly seems worth it

Bridgehouse

RiftAmps said:

Bridgehouse said:

RiftAmps said:

The price commanded by the seller is not based on the actual value of the cable itself, but by the potential value lost by an owner if his original Dumble Head and Cab doesn't have the original.

Collectors demand originality, and that comes with a price (or penalty in this case). People will pay £5k for an original M-69 pickup ring from a 1959 Burst if it means their one is back to full originality - get your head around that one!

*On a personal note, I think it's all very silly*

The more you think about this, the more ridiculous it is..

”I will lose out £1500 if I don’t have the original cable for my dumble head and amp, so I’m going to pay £1500 for a replacement and fob off the buyer that it’s the original cable”

lol. 

I actually think the loss value is higher than the item price, eg amp is worth £2k less without it so £1500 suddenly seems worth it

Strangefan

Rocker said:

This kind of thread, and religions threads too, reveal a lot about the keyboard warriors who post threads and replies. It appears that most people want or need to be considered 'sound' and 'dependable' members of the community, in this case theFretBoard. To be accepted by the community, they feel that they must advance 'sound' ideas and/or agree with other members who voice so called sound opinions (usually on subjects that the majority never think about from one day to the next).

I am sure that Freud must have written about this phenomenon, I must look it up. Human interaction and so called group think is a fascinating subject. Every day I see examples of it here. 

What are you going on about man?

GoldenEraGuitars

Rocker said:

This kind of thread, and religions threads too, reveal a lot about the keyboard warriors who post threads and replies. It appears that most people want or need to be considered 'sound' and 'dependable' members of the community, in this case theFretBoard. To be accepted by the community, they feel that they must advance 'sound' ideas and/or agree with other members who voice so called sound opinions (usually on subjects that the majority never think about from one day to the next).

I am sure that Freud must have written about this phenomenon, I must look it up. Human interaction and so called group think is a fascinating subject. Every day I see examples of it here. 

I don’t think there has been anything said to brand the people posting here as “keyboard warriors”. The general consensus is that it’s amusing for someone to try to sell a cable (which has no provenance) for £1500 because it was made by Dumble. 

It could have been made by someone in China last year for all we know. 

ToneControl

Rocker believes that pricey cables made by hand by chaste virgin sonic priestesses positively affect the electricity passing through them, so any insult to inexplicably expensive cables is a bit like a personal insult 

jpfamps

lonestar said:

Rocker said:

This kind of thread, and religions threads too, reveal a lot about the keyboard warriors who post threads and replies. It appears that most people want or need to be considered 'sound' and 'dependable' members of the community, in this case theFretBoard. To be accepted by the community, they feel that they must advance 'sound' ideas and/or agree with other members who voice so called sound opinions (usually on subjects that the majority never think about from one day to the next).

I am sure that Freud must have written about this phenomenon, I must look it up. Human interaction and so called group think is a fascinating subject. Every day I see examples of it here. 

I don’t think there has been anything said to brand the people posting here as “keyboard warriors”. The general consensus is that it’s amusing for someone to try to sell a cable (which has no provenance) for £1500 because it was made by Dumble. 

It could have been made by someone in China last year for all we know. 

The definition of "keyboard warrior" seems to be "a person who behaves aggressively and/or in an inflammatory manner in online text-based discussion media, but at the same time does not behave similarly in real life".

For what it's worth anyone is more than welcome to come to my workshop and I will tell them in person that I consider that paying £1500 for a Dumble speaker cable is insanity.

richardhomer

lonestar said:
It could have been made by someone in China last year for all we know. 

And it could have been ‘made’ by Alexander/Howard Dumble himself - and by ‘made’ - I mean ‘soldered together’.

Now I’m reasonably proficient at soldering - but I accept Alex/Howie might be better than me - but I’m buggered if I’d pay that much to find out....

Heartfeltdawn

Rocker said:

This kind of thread, and religions threads too, reveal a lot about the keyboard warriors who post threads and replies. It appears that most people want or need to be considered 'sound' and 'dependable' members of the community, in this case theFretBoard. To be accepted by the community, they feel that they must advance 'sound' ideas and/or agree with other members who voice so called sound opinions (usually on subjects that the majority never think about from one day to the next).

I am sure that Freud must have written about this phenomenon, I must look it up. Human interaction and so called group think is a fascinating subject. Every day I see examples of it here. 

Freud also wrote about another phenomenon, namely that of "People writing forum posts pissed in the clubhouse after the monthly medal". 

samzadgan

I saw this earlier...ridiculous price in isolation.

but i guess if you're willing to pay $30k for an amp, and $30k for a 2x12 cab...then $2k for a cable is total reasonable.

i mean, my amp and cab is about $3k, so $100 for a cable isn't out of the question...

Then again if you're willing to pay that much the amp to start with, either you have too much money with no idea what to do with it (you could donate and help the less fortunate) or you're an investor/collector, in which case all the common sense we exercise here has no place in the matter

ICBM

samzadgan said:

I saw this earlier...ridiculous price in isolation.

but i guess if you're willing to pay $30k for an amp, and $30k for a 2x12 cab...then $2k for a cable is total reasonable.

i mean, my amp and cab is about $3k, so $100 for a cable isn't out of the question...

No, this is the audiophile cable spending fallacy - the idea that you should 'set a percentage of your total budget for cables', and thus that you should automatically spend more on cables when you spend more on equipment.

Beyond a certain price - probably about £50 per cable, even if you're paying someone to make them by hand - there is no point spending any more because there will be *no* improvement, no matter how expensive and genuinely better-sounding the things you're connecting together with it are.

This Dumble cable isn't even a good cable, no matter that it was made by hand - because he used crap plugs.

ToneControl

ICBM said:

samzadgan said:

I saw this earlier...ridiculous price in isolation.

but i guess if you're willing to pay $30k for an amp, and $30k for a 2x12 cab...then $2k for a cable is total reasonable.

i mean, my amp and cab is about $3k, so $100 for a cable isn't out of the question...

No, this is the audiophile cable spending fallacy - the idea that you should 'set a percentage of your total budget for cables', and thus that you should automatically spend more on cables when you spend more on equipment.

Beyond a certain price - probably about £50 per cable, even if you're paying someone to make them by hand - there is no point spending any more because there will be *no* improvement, no matter how expensive and genuinely better-sounding the things you're connecting together with it are.

This Dumble cable isn't even a good cable, no matter that it was made by hand - because he used crap plugs.

Although it's laughable as a quality / cost issue,
if it's a genuine artefact, it could be worth the investment as a museum piece

jpfamps

ICBM said:

No, this is the audiophile cable spending fallacy - the idea that you should 'set a percentage of your total budget for cables', and thus that you should automatically spend more on cables when you spend more on equipment.

Also the fallacy that the more expensive solution is always the better solution.....

impmann

I'm waiting for Howard to come forth and say "April Fool!" about this whole bollocks that is the myth of Dumble Amps.

I've not heard a single recording, clip, live show or video of a player using one where I don't think a similar sound could be achieved (in fact, in a couple of cases a *better one*) using equipment costing far far far less. I genuinely, genuinely don't get it.

beed84

So it's just a cable, then?

Robben Ford plays through a Dumble.
He also plays, amongst other amps, through a Fender Twin.
Yet whatever he plays through he still sounds like Robben Ford.

The question is: does the Fender Twin (and whatever else) have a Dumble speaker cable attached to it?...