It's for a very nice Gartone Stageman 45, a 1x12 Super Reverb style amp but with upgraded transformers. I've tried a Jensen C12K, which is probably the top choice so far but it feels pretty chunky weight-wise. I've also rejected a reconed Celestion Century Vintage which although brought the weight down to acceptable levels, didn't sound as good and at 60 watts also feels a little under-powered for the amp, which was outputting around 60 watts when
@ICBM had it on the bench. I'd been wondering about one of the Jensen Neos or an Eminence Swamp Thang (although also pretty heavy) but interested to hear if anyone else has any other suggestions... especially neo-style speakers or lighter weight ones at least.
Maybe I should just get wheels for it... or a trolley.
Thanks guys.
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Personally (I should add, I haven't tried your amp, I'm just talking in general terms here) I'd rather use an american-voiced speaker with an american-voiced amp, but that's just me. Plenty of players like mixing and matching so it's up to you.
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Not a massive problem as long as you're aware of it, but that's a fairly big assumption! I agree that it'd be much more useful to rate them in a real world way, like celestion does.
(b) I've liked pretty much all the ones I've tried (swamp thang I was a bit ambivalent on, but that might be more because I'm not really after than type of tone so much)- but based on the, er, one celestion equivalent I've tried (most of the ones i've tried have been from the patriot range), I'd agree they don't sound the same. They do seem to have a "family" type of tone.
(c) I haven't tried any of the older ones but I've heard you mention those older fender ones before )
I like the 75W Eminence Legend 1258 (a lot) and the Legend 1218 (150W) for a warmer,rounder 'Cropper' sound.
The Legend 1258 is the same speaker, with a different 'retail' label, as the standard Fender 75W speaker with the brown/gold label. Very loud, close to a G12T 75 and not too heavy.
The Celestion Classic Lead 80 is nice too... great all round speaker.
But recommending speakers is always a dangerous activity. Someone who plays heavy rock will probably disagree and say they're c**p! So we all end up none the wiser or totally confused. Resultantly, the OP sits on the fence for the next year! Lol
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I completely agree with you about the Classic Lead 80 - one of Celestion's best and for some reason very overlooked speakers, but light it is not .
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I agree the classic lead is nice.
OK, I'm surprised at your thoughts... but then I'm not a service man, so don't see the problems that you do. I still like that speaker though.
"Just because it's never been done before, is the very reason to make it happen" - Me!
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
(a) Agreed. I like to know and it's nice to know, but you shouldn't *have to*. What's the point in ratings if they're useless?
(b) Agreed. The ones I've tried I thought the eminences, as you said, if anything were maybe even slightly quieter than the celestion equivalents, and even comparing totally different speakers which often had higher ratings, the eminence ones were quieter. A V12 is noticeably quieter than a v30, for example, yet is rated higher; the gb128 is rated way above a greenback and I didn't notice much difference in volume, if any.