Cringey ebay description

timmypix

Reading that made me feel more than a little bit ill. That is horrifically cringeworthy.

WezV

its a shame,  the guitar is very tempting

dogload

TheMarlin said:

.....and they’re not even humbuckers!

They’re DeArmonf single coils.  Would need to take the pickups off to check, but they’re either DeArmond 2K, or 2000’s. 

2K are more P90 like, the 2000’s are closer to Dynasonic single coils, same as you get on a Gretsch G512(1-9). 

Pickups are very nice, could be worth up to £250 as a set.  They were white top on DeArmonds, and black on a Gretsch. 

Description is awful, but the guitar is ok. 

His valuation is laughable. Wouldn’t pay more that £250 for the whole guitar, but I’m mean. 

Trem is made for DeArmond by Bigsby, so a decent unit.

Marlin

Whichever ones are in the Gretsch (2K or 2000), the DeArmonds have the other ones I believe (can never remember which way round it is!). They are much punchier than the ones that were in my G5124.

I've actually been following this auction for a few weeks now as I am a bit of a fan of DeArmond guitars even though I've already go one of these... mostly to see if it actually sells or not. He seems to have a rather high reserve price (in addition to the very optimistic BIN price) but @TheMarlin I think your valuation of £250 is a little rude lol They are (IMHO) really nice guitars, sound and play great but weigh a fecking ton!

But yeah... that advert; what a plum!

francer

Check out this cringe-fest

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-1966-yellowed-Olympic-White-Fender-Jaguar-NOT-reissue-REAL-MOJO-/274512605702?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D75b4cf7d510d4ab298481502b8b7021e%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26itm%3D274512605702%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DPersonalizedTopicsRefactor%26brand%3DFender&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=BCdkCnuyvn1iiwlgaYnoZXwH4MM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

"She's such a cougar!" Yuk! 

Iamnobody

francer said:

Check out this cringe-fest

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-1966-yellowed-Olympic-White-Fender-Jaguar-NOT-reissue-REAL-MOJO-/274512605702?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D75b4cf7d510d4ab298481502b8b7021e%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26itm%3D274512605702%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DPersonalizedTopicsRefactor%26brand%3DFender&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=BCdkCnuyvn1iiwlgaYnoZXwH4MM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

"She's such a cougar!" Yuk! 

That guitar is the colour it is purely and simply because he’s been wanking all over it...

TheMarlin

dogload said:

TheMarlin said:

.....and they’re not even humbuckers!

They’re DeArmonf single coils.  Would need to take the pickups off to check, but they’re either DeArmond 2K, or 2000’s. 

2K are more P90 like, the 2000’s are closer to Dynasonic single coils, same as you get on a Gretsch G512(1-9). 

Pickups are very nice, could be worth up to £250 as a set.  They were white top on DeArmonds, and black on a Gretsch. 

Description is awful, but the guitar is ok. 

His valuation is laughable. Wouldn’t pay more that £250 for the whole guitar, but I’m mean. 

Trem is made for DeArmond by Bigsby, so a decent unit.

Marlin

Whichever ones are in the Gretsch (2K or 2000), the DeArmonds have the other ones I believe (can never remember which way round it is!). They are much punchier than the ones that were in my G5124.

I've actually been following this auction for a few weeks now as I am a bit of a fan of DeArmond guitars even though I've already go one of these... mostly to see if it actually sells or not. He seems to have a rather high reserve price (in addition to the very optimistic BIN price) but @TheMarlin I think your valuation of £250 is a little rude lol They are (IMHO) really nice guitars, sound and play great but weigh a fecking ton!

But yeah... that advert; what a plum!

It depends on the model, some
DeAemonds (M75T for example) use the exact same pickups as the G512x, DeArmond 2000’s. 

often with budget/mid priced older Gretsch models, getting the pickup close enough to the strings is difficult, you need shims, which are very hard to find.  You actually have to have them made.  That’s why they can sound weak, as pickups are too far away. 

Even the early Tim Armstrong models have issues with pickup height. You have to modify the pickup mounting mechanism to get the pickups located properly.  One of the reasons I don’t neither with Electromatics any more (though quality has much. Improved in recent year’s, along with the inflated price tag)

I don’t know this DeArmond model well. Quick
google search confirms they are indeed 2K’s, which are wonderful pickups.  

You can only tell the difference when the pickup is off the guitar. The design of the back of the pickup confirms which one they are

https://www.gad.net/Blog/2020/02/01/identifying-dearmond-200-2000-2k-pickups/

But they’re certainly not humbuckers.  

As for value, yes I am mean. I’ve seen a few go for under £200, but that was a long time ago. Not looked at DeArmonds for about 8 years. . M75T used to only fetch. £150, and it’s a fine guitar, if a bit of a lump. Now people seem to want £500. Wouldn’t pay that. 

SteveRobinson

WezV said:

its a shame,  the guitar is very tempting

Yes I might overlook the description but just know his reserve will be unrealistic (to me at least)

March

I hope the guy off the Trogly's Guitar Show buys it and runs the black light over it. He'll probably end up batheing in sanitizer for a week afterwards...

thermionic

“A LOT of work went  into her! The previous owner (a LONG time ago!) had...”

Hmmm... sound like sloppy seconds to me. And for that reason, I’m out.

axisus

What a bunch of grumpy old men!

It's just a bit of fun on his part.

english_bob

francer said:

Check out this cringe-fest

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-1966-yellowed-Olympic-White-Fender-Jaguar-NOT-reissue-REAL-MOJO-/274512605702?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D75b4cf7d510d4ab298481502b8b7021e%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26itm%3D274512605702%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DPersonalizedTopicsRefactor%26brand%3DFender&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=BCdkCnuyvn1iiwlgaYnoZXwH4MM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

"She's such a cougar!" Yuk! 

That is really fucking creepy. 


"The previous owner (a LONG time ago!) had repainted her with white acrylic. Not a bad job, but not right. This has now been VERY carefully removed to reveal the 1966 Olympic White nitro-cellulose finish that you can see in the pictures."

All I see is the marks around the edges of the body that look like the finish was VERY carefully removed with a belt sander.

From the front, you cannot tell that this is anything other than a guitar with so many tales to tell…

Starting with "how the fuck did that happen?"

dogload

TheMarlin said:

dogload said:

TheMarlin said:

.....and they’re not even humbuckers!

They’re DeArmonf single coils.  Would need to take the pickups off to check, but they’re either DeArmond 2K, or 2000’s. 

2K are more P90 like, the 2000’s are closer to Dynasonic single coils, same as you get on a Gretsch G512(1-9). 

Pickups are very nice, could be worth up to £250 as a set.  They were white top on DeArmonds, and black on a Gretsch. 

Description is awful, but the guitar is ok. 

His valuation is laughable. Wouldn’t pay more that £250 for the whole guitar, but I’m mean. 

Trem is made for DeArmond by Bigsby, so a decent unit.

Marlin

Whichever ones are in the Gretsch (2K or 2000), the DeArmonds have the other ones I believe (can never remember which way round it is!). They are much punchier than the ones that were in my G5124.

I've actually been following this auction for a few weeks now as I am a bit of a fan of DeArmond guitars even though I've already go one of these... mostly to see if it actually sells or not. He seems to have a rather high reserve price (in addition to the very optimistic BIN price) but @TheMarlin I think your valuation of £250 is a little rude lol They are (IMHO) really nice guitars, sound and play great but weigh a fecking ton!

But yeah... that advert; what a plum!

It depends on the model, some
DeAemonds (M75T for example) use the exact same pickups as the G512x, DeArmond 2000’s. 

often with budget/mid priced older Gretsch models, getting the pickup close enough to the strings is difficult, you need shims, which are very hard to find.  You actually have to have them made.  That’s why they can sound weak, as pickups are too far away. 

Even the early Tim Armstrong models have issues with pickup height. You have to modify the pickup mounting mechanism to get the pickups located properly.  One of the reasons I don’t neither with Electromatics any more (though quality has much. Improved in recent year’s, along with the inflated price tag)

I don’t know this DeArmond model well. Quick
google search confirms they are indeed 2K’s, which are wonderful pickups.  

You can only tell the difference when the pickup is off the guitar. The design of the back of the pickup confirms which one they are

https://www.gad.net/Blog/2020/02/01/identifying-dearmond-200-2000-2k-pickups/

But they’re certainly not humbuckers.  

As for value, yes I am mean. I’ve seen a few go for under £200, but that was a long time ago. Not looked at DeArmonds for about 8 years. . M75T used to only fetch. £150, and it’s a fine guitar, if a bit of a lump. Now people seem to want £500. Wouldn’t pay that. 

Thanks for the info - that article really clears things up! lol 

I've had a few DeArmonds over the years and the prices have been creeping up; When I sold my Jetstar I could barely give it away now they are being advertised for 700 quid! 
M75T's are currently going  for almost twice what mine cost and the Starfires like the one in that advert actually are supposedly quite sought after, but a more realistic price seems to be around 450. Fortunately I got mine in exchange for a not very good Epi Sheraton.

You're right about them being a bit 'lumpy' mind - mine tend to get used mostly for recording; they sound great but my back complains too much whenever I take them out to play. Even the Starfire, despite being a semi. Must have a concrete centre-block.

thegummy

steer said:

Cant decide which bits I hate most. Maybe we can have a vote:-

1. OK, here's the dope
2. nearly 30 years old and getting rarer all the time (investment).
3. was a good girl
   
4. recordings were spanky sharp and grunting devilish.
5. a beautiful classic car of a guitar
6. she runs beautifully.
   
7. My old band leader saw me play this on stage last year and he just smiled.
8. she is very experienced and looks dead sexy in a red dress.
9. bye, bye grown up guitar, hello new lover.

I think no.7 is most weird

The band leader thing is definitely the weirdest. That would be ripe for jokes on a less conservative forum.

The "(investment)" part is my most hated though. For several reasons.

thegummy

axisus said:

What a bunch of grumpy old men!

It's just a bit of fun on his part.

Let us know if you manage to sell it.

jdgm

"Spanky sharp and grunting devilish"

"This is the Amy Winehouse version." 

Let's not go there, eh?

Deadman

It rubs the lotion in it's skin or else it gets the hose again

dogload

jdgm said:

"Spanky sharp and grunting devilish"

To be honest, this isn't as daft as it appears... it's actually a fairly accurate description of the sound. Sort of. 

mucksavage

more of these please!

DrJazzTap

westford said:

“Here’s the dope” - who talks like that?

Sounds like something from an awful 90s drug awareness video.

roberty

Bellend