Western Jam, Saturday 2nd October, 2021 -- Factory Studios, Bristol

Brocco

We still have far too many gaps - please everyone, we are in this together and owe it to each other to practice our respective "band" parts, which will be especially difficult for drummers and vocalists if we do not finalise the track list very soon. Just What I Needed almost has a full band, Hard To Handle, Keep Your Hands To Yourself and Rocks are also looking likely set list candidates, but have some "open" band roles. As some of us do not have access to the google sheet I will post another update here on Sunday, so we can decide which songs to drop completely and discuss potential replacements (if required).

BAND	SONG	KEY	VOCALS	DRUMS	BASS	LEAD	RHYTHM 1	RHYTHM 2
Georgia Satellites	Keep Your Hands To Yourself	A	bobblehat		mart	stratman3142
Stevie Wonder	I Wish	D			Funkfingers
The Cars	Just What I Needed	E	nicos236		Funkfingers	spark240	Brocco
Jet	Cold Hard Bitch	A					Brocco
Primal Scream	Rocks	A	bobblehat		mart		bobblehat
Black Crowes	Hard To Handle	B	bobblehat			bobblehat	Brocco	Jonathangus
David Bowie	China Girl	C			mart
The Police	Every Little Thing	D			mart
Kiss	Detroit Rock City						Vibetronic
David Bowie	Moonage Daydream
Faster Pussycat	Bathroom Wall						Vibetronic
Poison	Talk Dirty To Me						Jonathangus
Supergrass	Richard III					Jonathangus	roberty
Def Leppard	Rock of Ages					Jonathangus
Joe Jackson	Is She Really Going Out With Him				mart		Vibetronic
David Bowie	Rebel Rebel				mart
The Clash	London Calling				mart
The Jam	That's Entertainment				Funkfingers
Rainbow	Since You've Been Gone					Vibetronic
REM	The One I Love
Kinks/Van Halen	You Really Got Me					Vibetronic
Chuck Berry	Johnny B. Goode					Vibetronic

Vibetronic

I can do lead in Jet and Poison - will prob be enough for me with the rest. Actually could do rhythm on Georgia Satellites too, nice and easy!

stratman3142

@Brocco just some thoughts (feel free to ignore).

I wondered if it might be useful to take stock of of what singers we have and what songs they're happy to sing, plus in what key. Unfortunately I can't sing, so I'm no help in that role.

Going on from that I'd then be happy to take any missing role on lead guitar, rhythm - or even bass if you're really desperate. That's for up to about (say) 6 songs, provided it's nothing mega hard.

Can we have multiple slots filled on some songs? I expect we could have different lineups for the same song. For example, such songs as Hard To Handle.

Brocco

stratman3142 said:

@Brocco just some thoughts (feel free to ignore).

I wondered if it might be useful to take stock of of what singers we have and what songs they're happy to sing, plus in what key. Unfortunately I can't sing, so I'm no help in that role.

Going on from that I'd then be happy to take any missing role on lead guitar, rhythm - or even bass if you're really desperate. That's for up to about (say) 6 songs, provided it's nothing mega hard.

Can we have multiple slots filled on some songs? I expect we could have different lineups for the same song. For example, such songs as Hard To Handle.

I could not agree more - it would be very helpful if those who can sing could share any concerns (the same goes for drummers).

Multiple slots for the most popular songs is usually a feature of the final tracklist for the live room.

stratman3142

nickp said:

Now we have had confirmations maybe it' time to fill my paypal account back up, especially as I have accidentally bought a guitar........nick@paulleys.co.uk - it £15 each I think (it was £155) so we might have some left over for pop and candy if we are 
lucky.

Money sent.

nickp

stratman3142 said:

nickp said:

Now we have had confirmations maybe it' time to fill my paypal account back up, especially as I have accidentally bought a guitar........nick@paulleys.co.uk - it £15 each I think (it was £155) so we might have some left over for pop and candy if we are 
lucky.

Money sent.

Thanks very much !

bobblehat

Brocco said:

I could not agree more - it would be very helpful if those who can sing could share any concerns (the same goes for drummers).

For me ,the thing with singing is that if its a song you've never sung before or played with a band , its incredibly hard to know if you can actually sing it properly until you get in the room with the band. Yes I can learn the words and sing along in the car but its completely different to singing it live. I'm not a great singer by any means but I'll have a stab at most things. 
However committing to singing unrehearsed songs with a bunch of strangers is a different thing altogether.

If we do get short on volunteer singers I'd be happy to submit a list of songs that I know and we can add them to the list. May be useful to have some more generic rock numbers in there which some will be happier to play on.

Brocco

In an effort to stimulate more responses, here are just a few of the "classic rock" type tracks we could consider as alternatives to those which so far have attracted little or no interest:

Supersonic
Wishing Well
Sunshine Of Your Love
Lil' Devil
Come Together

There are obviously many more in this mould, so if this whets your appetite, please get involved and express interest and/or suggest additional classic tracks.

Jonathangus

Just been having a quick WhatsApp with @onlyonebradders - as I think he's now the only drummist, I reckon simple, classic rock songs would go down well.

I'm pretty happy with rhythm parts on just about any AC/DC song.  And I'll also throw Under the Bridge into the pot, as I know he's played it before, and I'm happy to sing it.

Lil' Devil is a good shout.

stratman3142

Happy to play lead guitar, rhythm guitar or bass on anything, unless it's beyond my ability. I think the current list (dated 5 Aug) and the new suggestions by @Brocco are all OK for me. The only caveat is I'd prefer not to have to learn more than 6 unless they're pretty simple.

I wonder whether the way forward would be to ask the singers what they're happy singing. If we don't have a singer we don't have a song, unless it's an instrumental

onlyonebradders

Hi all; I know i'm just the token drummer, but please can we try and tie down the list asap.  I managed to rip a load of youtube to mp3 the other week but if it sounds like it's just going to be me drumming, I don't want to waste time learning songs that are going to be canned.  There's a lot to learn here by end October and If i screw up halfway through the song then it aint gonna work.  This is my summary of the suggested songs and my assessment of happy or not to learn, but i'd probably prefer not to have to learn them all!

Oh, and is there a single source of truth of the list?  The google sheets, doesn't match the Aug 5th post.

Georgia Satellites	Keep Your Hands To Yourself	Yep
Stevie Wonder	I Wish	Yep-ish
The Cars	Just What I Needed	Yep, although there's a tricky couple of changes in the middle
Jet	Cold Hard Bitch	Yep, but tricky
Primal Scream	Rocks	Yep
Black Crowes	Hard To Handle	Yep
David Bowie	China Girl	Yep, but three Bowie songs on the list
The Police	Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic	Struggling with this; it's sodding Stuart Copeland!
Kiss	Detroit Rock City	Struggling a bit with this
David Bowie	Moonage Daydream	Meh... but there's three Bowie songs on the list..
Faster Pussycat	Bathroom Wall	Yep
Poison	Talk Dirty to Me	Yep
Supergrass	Richard III	Yep
Def Leppard	Rock of Ages	Yep but need to tie down the cowbell intro
Joe Jackson	Is She really going out with him	Yep
David Bowie	Rebel Rebel	Yep, but three Bowie songs...
The Clash	London Calling	Yep
The Jam	That's Entertainment	Kinda redundant in this
Extreme	Get The Funk Out	Yep, but need to tie down the intro
Van Halen	Hot For Teacher	No chance!
Rainbow	Since You've Been Gone	Yep
REM	The One I Love	Yep
Kinks/VH	You Really Got Me	Yep
Chuck Berry	JBG	Yep; have played before

Other songs I know pretty well are:
RHCP Under the Bridge
The Darkness I believe in a thing called love
Bon Jovi Livin' on a prayer and You give love a bad name
GnR Sweet Child of Mine
Blondie Hanging on the Telephone
The Ataris Boys of Summer (but it's been a while....)
SOAD Aerials
Metallica Enter Sandman

Also happy with Lil' Devil as suggested.

I'd welcome any thoughts?
Andy

Brocco

@onlyonebradders - incredibly helpful Andy, thank you.

I have updated the list to reflect the tracks already proposed that you are ok to play on, which means we now have a full band line-up for Keep Your Hands To Yourself and Just What I needed, with Hard To Handle and Cold Hard Bitch just needing a Bass player (assuming @nicos236 is ok for vox on the latter) and Rocks just needs a second guitar player (lead?). Talk Dirty To Me and Richard III both need vox and a bass player, and Is She Really Going Out With Him needs vox.

Based on responses so far it looks like China Girl, I Wish, Every Little Thing, Detroit Rock City and Moonage Daydream are likely to be dropped.

Brocco

BAND	SONG	KEY	VOCALS	DRUMS	BASS	LEAD	RHYTHM 1	RHYTHM 2
Georgia Satellites	Keep Your Hands To Yourself	A	bobblehat	onlyonebradders	mart	stratman3142	Vibetronic
The Cars	Just What I Needed	E	nicos236	onlyonebradders	Funkfingers	spark240	Brocco
Black Crowes	Hard To Handle	B	bobblehat	onlyonebradders		bobblehat	Brocco	Jonathangus
Primal Scream	Rocks	A	bobblehat	onlyonebradders	mart		bobblehat
Jet	Cold Hard Bitch	A	nicos236?	onlyonebradders		Vibetronic	Brocco
Poison	Talk Dirty To Me			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic	Jonathangus
Supergrass	Richard III			onlyonebradders		Jonathangus	roberty
Joe Jackson	Is She Really Going Out With Him			onlyonebradders	mart		Vibetronic
Faster Pussycat	Bathroom Wall			onlyonebradders			Vibetronic
Def Leppard	Rock of Ages			onlyonebradders		Jonathangus
David Bowie	Rebel Rebel			onlyonebradders	mart
The Clash	London Calling			onlyonebradders	mart
The Jam	That's Entertainment				Funkfingers		spark240?
Rainbow	Since You've Been Gone			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic
REM	The One I Love			onlyonebradders	mart?
RHCP	Under The Bridge		Jonathangus	onlyonebradders
The Cult	Lil' Devil			onlyonebradders			Brocco
Chuck Berry	Johnny B. Goode			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic
Kinks/Van Halen	You Really Got Me			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic
Stevie Wonder	I Wish	D			Funkfingers
David Bowie	China Girl	C			mart
The Police	Every Little Thing	D			mart
Kiss	Detroit Rock City						Vibetronic
David Bowie	Moonage Daydream

Brocco

Jonathangus said:

Just been having a quick WhatsApp with @onlyonebradders - as I think he's now the only drummist, I reckon simple, classic rock songs would go down well.

I'm pretty happy with rhythm parts on just about any AC/DC song.  And I'll also throw Under the Bridge into the pot, as I know he's played it before, and I'm happy to sing it.

Lil' Devil is a good shout.

If we have a willing vocalist for an AC/DC track (@roberty?) I could contribute rhythm on Highway To Hell

Funkfingers

onlyonebradders said:

Boys of Summer (but it's been a while....)

Good suggestion. I am more familiar with the original Don Henley arrangement. The Larry Klein bass part is fretless. (More gear to carry.)

Right now, my car is in dock. My mind is not really on the Bristol event. Sorry.

Brocco

As flagged yesterday, to aid practice and performances on the day, the time has regrettably come to cut songs from the list which have failed to attract interest. As a result China Girl, I Wish, Every Little Thing, Detroit Rock City and Moonage Daydream will no longer feature in the list of songs under consideration. That leaves us with 19 songs, still probably too many, but as a final plea could everyone please confirm the specific tracks you would like to be in the house band for and the band role(s) you would like, remembering that we can (and will) perform the most popular songs multiple times to ensure that everyone who wants to play in the band for a given track gets to do so, so no excuses, get your names down!!    

BAND	SONG	KEY	VOCALS	DRUMS	BASS	LEAD	RHYTHM 1	RHYTHM 2
Georgia Satellites	Keep Your Hands To Yourself	A	bobblehat	onlyonebradders	mart	stratman3142	Vibetronic
The Cars	Just What I Needed	E	nicos236	onlyonebradders	Funkfingers	spark240	Brocco
Black Crowes	Hard To Handle	B	bobblehat	onlyonebradders		bobblehat	Brocco	Jonathangus
Primal Scream	Rocks	A	bobblehat	onlyonebradders	mart		bobblehat
Jet	Cold Hard Bitch	A	nicos236?	onlyonebradders		Vibetronic	Brocco
Poison	Talk Dirty To Me			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic	Jonathangus
Supergrass	Richard III			onlyonebradders		Jonathangus	roberty
Joe Jackson	Is She Really Going Out With Him			onlyonebradders	mart		Vibetronic
Faster Pussycat	Bathroom Wall			onlyonebradders			Vibetronic
Def Leppard	Rock of Ages			onlyonebradders		Jonathangus
David Bowie	Rebel Rebel			onlyonebradders	mart
The Clash	London Calling			onlyonebradders	mart
The Jam	That's Entertainment				Funkfingers		spark240?
Rainbow	Since You've Been Gone			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic
REM	The One I Love			onlyonebradders	mart?
RHCP	Under The Bridge		Jonathangus	onlyonebradders
The Cult	Lil' Devil			onlyonebradders			Brocco
Chuck Berry	Johnny B. Goode			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic
Kinks/Van Halen	You Really Got Me			onlyonebradders		Vibetronic

bobblehat

Happy to sing Lil' Devil and possibly lead guitar. Songs in D but would prefer it down half a step C# 

Brocco

bobblehat said:

Happy to sing Lil' Devil and possibly lead guitar. Songs in D but would prefer it down half a step C# 

@bobblehat - thank you! 

I have replaced the song lists in the first post with an updated grid to show who is down for what so we can all keep track   

mart

nickp said:

Now we have had confirmations maybe it' time to fill my paypal account back up, especially as I have accidentally bought a guitar........nick@paulleys.co.uk - it £15 each I think (it was £155) so we might have some left over for pop and candy if we are 
lucky.
...

I've just paid up; thanks for covering this up front.

Brocco

nickp said:

Now we have had confirmations maybe it' time to fill my paypal account back up, especially as I have accidentally bought a guitar........nick@paulleys.co.uk - it £15 each I think (it was £155) so we might have some left over for pop and candy if we are 
lucky.

I'm looking forward to this as i'm as rusty as feck (assuming you can get rusty fecks) and haven't played for months as personal circumstances have gone all a bit wobbly

@nickp - Hi Nick, have just paid. Many thanks for securing the venue for us, much appreciated.