‘50% of vinyl buyers in the US don’t own a record player, data shows’

Philly_Q

barnstorm said:

Litterick said:

If you buy the LP, you also have access to the content online, and you have an album cover you can enjoy while you listen.

I would say this is true if you buy the much cheaper CD, too, but I wonder how many people have a CD player these days!

Much as I don't have a working turntable, I don't have a working CD player either - actually I do, sort of, I have my old Pioneer DVD player which has been repurposed as a CD player.

When I retire - and after I've made some steps towards sorting out my hoarding problem - I may well re-commission or replace my hi-fi system, although in typical fashion I won't get rid of anything if it still works, no matter how old it is. @Rocker I might get a new turntable as well.

earwighoney

Philly_Q said:

When I retire - and after I've made some steps towards sorting out my hoarding problem - I may well re-commission or replace my hi-fi system, although in typical fashion I won't get rid of anything if it still works, no matter how old it is.

Now and again I read one of your posts, and think to myself we have a few similarities...

I really need to get rid of some of my guitar boxes, but I'm still keeping them just in case I sell a guitar...

Philly_Q

earwighoney said:

Philly_Q said:

When I retire - and after I've made some steps towards sorting out my hoarding problem - I may well re-commission or replace my hi-fi system, although in typical fashion I won't get rid of anything if it still works, no matter how old it is.

Now and again I read one of your posts, and think to myself we have a few similarities...

I really need to get rid of some of my guitar boxes, but I'm still keeping them just in case I sell a guitar...

Get rid of yours, and you can have a couple of mine if you ever sell some guitars.  No point in both of us being Mr Trebus.

ICBM

Litterick said:

If you buy the LP, you also have access to the content online, and you have an album cover you can enjoy while you listen.

That's true, but if you buy the CD you very often get *more* artwork and information in the booklet than you do on a record cover - the usual argument is backwards, in fact - albeit on a smaller scale (only a real problem if you're very short-sighted, I would have thought), and you can self-rip the files at any quality you want and play them on your own devices.

Philly_Q

ICBM said:

Litterick said:

If you buy the LP, you also have access to the content online, and you have an album cover you can enjoy while you listen.

That's true, but if you buy the CD you very often get *more* artwork and information in the booklet than you do on a record cover - the usual argument is backwards, in fact - albeit on a smaller scale (only a real problem if you're very short-sighted, I would have thought), and you can self-rip the files at any quality you want and play them on your own devices.

I think, though, that the CD age led to, broadly speaking, different types of cover artwork.  Those old Yes and Kansas album covers don't look as good scaled down to less than a quarter of their original size.

darthed1981

Philly_Q said:

Rocker said:

Buying albums, vinyl or CD, and not having any way of listening to them is akin to buying a guitar without any strings fitted. 

Yeah, but strings are easy to fit.  At a time that suits.

I've got a growing collection of films on 4K Ultra HD, but I haven't got a 4K TV or disc player.  However, I will need to buy a new TV at some point, and it will be 4K.  Unless we're up to 8K by then, which will complicate things...

4k is double what we used to get in cinemas  with 2k digital projection, so 8k is simply more pixels on a TV, done for the exact same reason they picked up 4k so quick , you just cut a piece of glass twice as big.

Plus although there are new tweaks to HDR, they are tweaks.

In a nutshell, you will have a lovely time watching all those 4k blus when you get your new TV and player, and need not worry about 8k.

My favourite 4k transfer to date is Dunkirk, I loved the film and the 4k really brings across how beautifully Chris Nolan wields an Imax camera.

darthed1981

barnstorm said:

Litterick said:

If you buy the LP, you also have access to the content online, and you have an album cover you can enjoy while you listen.

I would say this is true if you buy the much cheaper CD, too, but I wonder how many people have a CD player these days!

I ironically bought one of those Denon mini systems from the thread the other day, built in CD, bluetooth for the Spotify and an analog input for my vinyl.

Unlike my old musical fidelity amp it replaced, it has a remote.

I love it.  I love vinyl for my rock but I love CD for classical.  

thing

axisus said:

I have 2000 or so albums, all from the old days. I have had no room to set up a record player for over 2 decades, although I 'think' I still have one somewhere.

I keep seeing new vinyl albums that I would love to buy, but I resist as there's no point, plus they are bloody expensive.

Could this possibly be because you have 2000 or so albums?

Litterick

Philly_Q said:

ICBM said:

Litterick said:

If you buy the LP, you also have access to the content online, and you have an album cover you can enjoy while you listen.

That's true, but if you buy the CD you very often get *more* artwork and information in the booklet than you do on a record cover - the usual argument is backwards, in fact - albeit on a smaller scale (only a real problem if you're very short-sighted, I would have thought), and you can self-rip the files at any quality you want and play them on your own devices.

I think, though, that the CD age led to, broadly speaking, different types of cover artwork.  Those old Yes and Kansas album covers don't look as good scaled down to less than a quarter of their original size.

A twelve-inch square is a good space for artwork, and there is more on the back and possibly a gatefold. A CD is small.


Besides, people spend much of their lives with digital things that do not exist in the physical world, so they like to have a long-playing record in their hands.

thecolourbox

It's not that weird to buy records without a record player, in my opinion. I buy stuff I like while it's still available, because by the time I can justify a good record player, it might not be made any more.

I lived in a very small house until recently, so once I've sorted out my music space in my new house I might well have room for one. If i get one at Christmas, I've got about 20 albums and singles ready to play on it, which seems like good forward planning to me?

LastMantra

I'm not sure I could even think of 2000 albums that I like. Even out of the 30/40 records I have there's probably a few I'll never listen to. 

hollywoodrox

axisus said:

I have 2000 or so albums, all from the old days. I have had no room to set up a record player for over 2 decades, although I 'think' I still have one somewhere.

I keep seeing new vinyl albums that I would love to buy, but I resist as there's no point, plus they are bloody expensive.

That’s so cool , they are so worth hanging on to , I know what you mean about new album prices they are super high 

viz

I have a record player and lots of records, but I think I’d get records from my fave artists even if I didn’t have a record player, just coz they’ll probably become rarities sooner or later. 

I also recently got a new CD player, though I guess CDs on the other hand will be cheap for some time.

hollywoodrox

I recently bought this from a car boot sale. I don’t really collect Carly Simon so knocked him down from £3 to £1 as it’s an interesting bit of old tech ,plus the disc looks a bit like the inner foil might have got the rot ,but for a £1 I could justify it for being an interesting example of retro tech . It’s LP size & I do actually like a lot of Carly’s tracks but not enough to collect , she is a super fox from this period in the 80s . 

Jfingers

I have an original pressing of the first 13th Floor Elevators album on IA, it jumps on Monkey Island last time I heard it.

I paid £5 for it at a record fair in Brighton in the mid 80's

My point is, although I can't currently play the vinyl of it, I can still listen to it and it's worth at least 6 times what I paid for it.