Later... With Jools Holland

mo6020

Philly_Q said:

mo6020 said:

Later used to be essential viewing back in the 90s 

Was it?  I must have been in hibernation or something.

TBF I was in my teens so I may have my rose tinted glasses on... I remember it being decent, along with the White Room (which was better)...

Vintage65

EricTheWeary said:

Cat Power has a nice voice, she should do John Lewis ads. 

This version of the song brought out the words, and showcased what a great lyricist Dylan is.

Philly_Q

EricTheWeary said:

Cat Power has a nice voice, she should do John Lewis ads. 

That's damning with faint praise... Bad timing on her part though, they probably recorded the John Lewis Christmas ad last July.

EricTheWeary

Vintage65 said:

EricTheWeary said:

Cat Power has a nice voice, she should do John Lewis ads. 

This song version brought out the words, and showed what a great lyricist Dylan is.

Philly_Q said:

EricTheWeary said:

Cat Power has a nice voice, she should do John Lewis ads. 

That's damning with faint praise... Bad timing on her part though, they probably recorded the John Lewis Christmas ad last July.

I've seen her on there before, I think she has more to offer than what she did on this show. I am fairly oblivious to most lyrics, Dylan's career is basically lost on me I'm afraid.

mo6020 said:

Philly_Q said:

mo6020 said:

Later used to be essential viewing back in the 90s 

Was it?  I must have been in hibernation or something.

TBF I was in my teens so I may have my rose tinted glasses on... I remember it being decent, along with the White Room (which was better)...

It notably almost had no metal on it which is why I suspect @Philly_Q wasn't all that interested. 

What slightly annoys me now is that they have been selective about what they allow to seep out onto YouTube so plenty of things that you can't find at all. I don't know if that's a BBC/Later thing or an artist thing, IIRC you can't find the Katy Perry performance for example. 

mo6020

EricTheWeary said:

It notably almost had no metal on it which is why I suspect @Philly_Q wasn't all that interested. 

What slightly annoys me now is that they have been selective about what they allow to seep out onto YouTube so plenty of things that you can't find at all. I don't know if that's a BBC/Later thing or an artist thing, IIRC you can't find the Katy Perry performance for example. 

Ah yeh that'd make sense, there wasn't a lot of metal on there, sadly. 

StormshadowGuitars

Used to watch it on fast forward through all the guff years ago, but I'd rather nail gun my own balls to the workbench rather than watch it now.

prowla

Philly_Q said:

EricTheWeary said:

Cat Power has a nice voice, she should do John Lewis ads. 

That's damning with faint praise... Bad timing on her part though, they probably recorded the John Lewis Christmas ad last July.

Don't start with the bloddy JL Christmas ads - they even do adverts for the ad!

I can safely say I've never knowingly watched one.

Vintage65

Jools should get bands like Picture Parlour and these guys on ... there are still 3 episodes left to do it!

TTony

Skipped through the first 3 episodes earlier this week (hadn’t realised it was on either).

All a bit unforgettable, but put Allison Russell on my to-buy list.

https://youtu.be/EF6VjYqoBQQ?si=QtvuToYd4zua-e4p

RocknRollDave

All the bands/ artists I like should be on it, and all the ones I don’t like should not be on it.

Vintage65

RocknRollDave said:

All the bands/ artists I like should be on it, and all the ones I don’t like should not be on it.

I posted two random acts who have recently opened for Noel Gallagher and Interpol (both Later... favourites).

Kittyfrisk

RocknRollDave said:

All the bands/ artists I like should be on it, and all the ones I don’t like should not be on it.

By George, I think he's got it!! 

Vintage65

Kittyfrisk said:

RocknRollDave said:

All the bands/ artists I like should be on it, and all the ones I don’t like should not be on it.

By George, I think he's got it!! 

We're just trying to save Jools from extinction! 

Philly_Q

EricTheWeary said:

mo6020 said:

Philly_Q said:

mo6020 said:

Later used to be essential viewing back in the 90s 

Was it?  I must have been in hibernation or something.

TBF I was in my teens so I may have my rose tinted glasses on... I remember it being decent, along with the White Room (which was better)...

It notably almost had no metal on it which is why I suspect @Philly_Q wasn't all that interested. 

It doesn't have to be metal (he says, lying through his teeth...) but it would be nice to see and hear something a bit louder, a bit more aggressive.  And there's always that undercurrent of "is it cool?" (cool in the eyes of Jools and/or his production team that is, which is anything but cool in my eyes).

Obviously there'll never be any kind of old-school metal band on the show, it would simply not work, but you could maybe imagine Clutch, or Baroness, or even Mastodon on there... schedules permitting, and assuming they had any interest in doing it.  Anyway, I gather they had Skindred on, so I can't really complain about that week.

Vintage65

Philly_Q said:
It doesn't have to be metal (he says, lying through his teeth...) but it would be nice to see and hear something a bit louder, a bit more aggressive.  And there's always that undercurrent of "is it cool?" (cool in the eyes of Jools and/or his production team that is, which is anything but cool in my eyes).

Obviously there'll never be any kind of old-school metal band on the show, it would simply not work, but you could maybe imagine Clutch, or Baroness, or even Mastodon on there... schedules permitting, and assuming they had any interest in doing it.  Anyway, I gather they had Skindred on, so I can't really complain about that week.

I did a straw poll of people I know and extended family under 40 before I posted, and nobody watches it, which is sad really as it was unmissable TV when I was growing up.

thecolourbox

I'm not sure that's necessarily a Later problem as much as a "how music is consumed" problem. Do they watch any other music based TV or similar?

I kind of see it as being similar to how older people moan there's nothing on TV that they would want to watch, despite the schedules appearing to be full of quiz shows, detective programmes, and beige dramas which are aimed squarely at them. They've just got bored of TV in general but seem instead to enjoy claiming TV is aimed at "the young" when it definitely isn't (or at least they're doing a good job of hiding it). 

RocknRollDave

Philly_Q said:

EricTheWeary said:

mo6020 said:

Philly_Q said:

mo6020 said:

Later used to be essential viewing back in the 90s 

Was it?  I must have been in hibernation or something.

TBF I was in my teens so I may have my rose tinted glasses on... I remember it being decent, along with the White Room (which was better)...

It notably almost had no metal on it which is why I suspect @Philly_Q wasn't all that interested. 

It doesn't have to be metal (he says, lying through his teeth...) but it would be nice to see and hear something a bit louder, a bit more aggressive.  And there's always that undercurrent of "is it cool?" (cool in the eyes of Jools and/or his production team that is, which is anything but cool in my eyes).

Obviously there'll never be any kind of old-school metal band on the show, it would simply not work, but you could maybe imagine Clutch, or Baroness, or even Mastodon on there... schedules permitting, and assuming they had any interest in doing it.  Anyway, I gather they had Skindred on, so I can't really complain about that week.

Mastodon have been on already.

RocknRollDave

RocknRollDave said:

Philly_Q said:

EricTheWeary said:

mo6020 said:

Philly_Q said:

mo6020 said:

Later used to be essential viewing back in the 90s 

Was it?  I must have been in hibernation or something.

TBF I was in my teens so I may have my rose tinted glasses on... I remember it being decent, along with the White Room (which was better)...

It notably almost had no metal on it which is why I suspect @Philly_Q wasn't all that interested. 

It doesn't have to be metal (he says, lying through his teeth...) but it would be nice to see and hear something a bit louder, a bit more aggressive.  And there's always that undercurrent of "is it cool?" (cool in the eyes of Jools and/or his production team that is, which is anything but cool in my eyes).

Obviously there'll never be any kind of old-school metal band on the show, it would simply not work, but you could maybe imagine Clutch, or Baroness, or even Mastodon on there... schedules permitting, and assuming they had any interest in doing it.  Anyway, I gather they had Skindred on, so I can't really complain about that week.

Mastodon have been on already.

Oh and Metallica

Philly_Q

RocknRollDave said:

RocknRollDave said:

Mastodon have been on already.

Oh and Metallica

Fair enough, maybe I should watch it more often then.  But there's so much I'm not interested in, I forget to look.

Blueingreen

There were plans to axe it a few years back (according to press coverage at the time).  This provoked predictable objections about the Beeb not doing enough to support live music.  It got a reprieve, but it's pretty obvious the Beeb's heart isn't really in it.  They believe the glory days are long gone and nothing will bring them back.  I suspect it won't limp on for too much longer. 

Ironically I used to find Jools himself a pretty irritating presenter and wished they'd get someone better, but I suspect that only his "national treasure" status and pull with an older demographic has kept the show on the road this long.