Taylor Swift vs. Scooter Braun and Scott Borchetta:

MrSwanson

TayTay will never live up to this masterpiece of an album

Vintage65

MrSwanson said:

TayTay will never live up to this masterpiece of an album

Is that the one with all the proceeds going to food banks and homeless charities in multiple countries? As far as Christmas records go, I have heard far worse!  

Kurtis

Kurtis said:

I'd say her production values are much higher than Bobby D's! 
Especially his early stuff where it's just him and a guitar. Some of his later stuff hasn't aged as well. 

A technical masterpiece ^

Forgot the harmonica, his voice is actually a bit like a harmonica. 

english_bob

ICBM said:

Taylor Swift is a great songwriter in my opinion - maybe not one of *the* greats, but it’s probably too soon to tell yet. I think she could be, and possibly already is. How long was it before Lennon and McCartney were recognised as such? Within the lifespan of the Beatles, I think, but possibly not.

Pretty early. William Mann, who was the music critic for the Times, called them "the greatest songwriters since Schubert" in 1964. He was roundly mocked by many of his contemporaries for doing so, but I suspect he got the last laugh.

https://www.beatlesbible.com/1963/12/27/the-times-what-songs-the-beatles-sang-by-william-mann/?utm_content=cmp-true

(John Lennon famously had no idea what "aeolian cadences" were- he guessed exotic birds)

It was a different world though- these were critics of classical music writing for newspapers, and rock music wasn't really even rock music in the way we conceive of it.

I found this LA Times article that pulls together a lot of US music critics' hot takes on the Beatles in 1964. Serious "disapproving dad's letter to the Daily Mail" energy:

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-beatles-quotes-20140209-story.html

RaymondLin

Taylor Swift won the Hal David Starlight Award for her songwriting back in 2010, she was 20 years old.  Whatever that is worth.

https://www.songhall.org/awards/winner/taylor_swift#:~:text=Taylor%20Swift%20will%20be%20the,New%20York%20Marriott%20Marquis%20Hotel.

DefaultM

RaymondLin said:

Taylor Swift won the Hal David Starlight Award for her songwriting back in 2010, she was 20 years old.  Whatever that is worth.

https://www.songhall.org/awards/winner/taylor_swift#:~:text=Taylor%20Swift%20will%20be%20the,New%20York%20Marriott%20Marquis%20Hotel.

https://i.postimg.cc/QVsKDDW7/IMG-1666.jpg

Reverend

Having looked into it, Taylor's lyrics don't mention any of the following:

Living on the road
Speakers exploding 
not attracting wimps due to excessive volume
true metal crowds
having the biggest amps 
wearing jeans and leather
not wearing crackerjack clothes
being kings of metal
roofs falling down
not turning down the volume


score so far

Manowar 1 - Taylor Swift 0

breakstuff

And Manowar are way sexier.

Reverend

breakstuff said:

And Manowar are way sexier.

That's a given

Vintage65

RaymondLin said:

Taylor Swift won the Hal David Starlight Award for her songwriting back in 2010, she was 20 years old.  Whatever that is worth.

https://www.songhall.org/awards/winner/taylor_swift#:~:text=Taylor%20Swift%20will%20be%20the,New%20York%20Marriott%20Marquis%20Hotel.

Dylan wrote A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall at 21. Age is just a number.

Revolutions

Three facts about Taylor Swift:

1. she wrote Like a Rolling Stone.

2. she’s a known cannibal, having eaten at least 7 members of her backing band over the years.

3. whilst some claimed she was named after Irish snack giant Taytos, her parents confirmed that the inspiration was actually a packet of Prawn Cocktail flavour crisps from Tesco.

goldtop

^

4. Chuck Norris avoids eye contact with Taylor Swift, lest it all kicks off.