pedal of choice with a loud clean(ish) Marshall

Hootsmon

what do you use to kick it's ass (Marshall) into singing overdrive/sustain.....after the guitar of course:)

JohnPerry

weehbo jtm. match made in marshall heaven

Hootsmon

googled that....looks NICE Bro 

shaunm

I believe the sd1been the daddy for this type of thing for years?

mike_l

SD-1

Bad Monkey

East River Drive

DS-1 (for a harder/harsher drive)

Digitech hothead (like the DS-1, but bass and treble controls)

Hootsmon

what does the SD1 do for the sound?

smudge_lad

SD-1
Klone
Zvex Super Duper
Timmy

Grunfeld

I use a tubescreamer.  Don't ask me which one, they all sound the same after they've had 100W of Marshall.

And... for when I want "more", I have a Wamper Pinnacle.  Which is great.  But it needs a noise gate to stop it being just a little red "add feedback" box.

midiglitch

What type of marshall and how much of a kick are we talking?

Sd1 is known to be a great match to a cooking jcm800.  On the other hand Clapton famously used a treble booster into his blues breaker.  Personally i don't/can't generally play with my jtm45 that loud.  I hate to say it, but in my case I always end up back at the rat.

ICBM

hootsmon said:

what does the SD1 do for the sound?

It adds a uniquely sensitive harmonic complexity, as well as boosting both the amount of gain and the volume at the same time, even when the amp is already heavily overdriven. I don't know how, but it does! You can generate false harmonics at will on anything - as a result it's the ultimate hair-metal combination, although it works for other styles too. All other Tube Screamer types work too, although they seem not to do the harmonic thing quite as well.

If the amp is cleaner, the DS-1, Rat etc are better, they sound closer to the natural tone of the amp so they blend with it better rather than pushing it into something different.

smudge_lad

Either of the guvnor pedals are great too!

bingefeller

Wampler Paisley Drive is very versatile.

SquireJapan

A bit late to the party in terms of bigging up the the SD-1, but it really is a great combination. 

I have a JCM900 Master Volume (run with a bit of crunch) - when I add the SD-1 it along with some bridge humbucker it becomes a huge "rawwk!" machine.

I now have quiet a collection on drive pedals, and by far the SD-1 is the nicest, followed closely by the DS-1 (for tighter "lead" sounds) - in terms of using with the JCM900 I mean

There's a tonne of versatility in adjusting the level, tone and drive of the SD1 (e.g. using it more of a "clean" boost, vs adding drive from the pedal and shaping more with the amp tone controls). A used SD-1 is peanuts, so it's worth starting there. I found any of the more boutiqey pedals (especially the more "amp in a box" pedals) tend to sounds a bit "meh" in front of the Marshall.

not_the_dj

Doesn't the SD-1 suffer from a bit of leakage when bypassed?

mike_l

@not_the_dj ; Yes it does, I've yet to find an unmodded Boss dirt that doesn't have some leakage.

not_the_dj

mike_l said:

@not_the_dj ; Yes it does, I've yet to find an unmodded Boss dirt that doesn't have some leakage.

Poo, I like the idea of these false harmonics that @ICBM was on about, but only for a couple of songs in the set, and I need to be nice and clean for others.

What else (cheap) should I be looking at?

ftumch

When I had my DSL I used an mxr zakk Wylde and I really liked it

ThePrettyDamned

not_the_dj;447442" said:

mike_l said:

@not_the_dj  Yes it does, I've yet to find an unmodded Boss dirt that doesn't have some leakage.





Poo, I like the idea of these false harmonics that @ICBM was on about, but only for a couple of songs in the set, and I need to be nice and clean for others.

What else (cheap) should I be looking at?

They don't all leak, and apparently it's only an issue with high output pickups. I've played a couple with no leak, and some with quite a bit - enough that I wouldn't want to own it.

@icbm can explain why, but if you put a buffered signal in front, it apparently fixes it. So a buffered wah or something would stop the leakage.

jimmyguitar

DOD 250 Overdrive/Preamp for me

not_the_dj

ThePrettyDamned said:

@icbm can explain why, but if you put a buffered signal in front, it apparently fixes it. So a buffered wah or something would stop the leakage.

I'll have a Boss TU-3, an MXR Univibe and a Whirlwind Orange Box Phaser before it.

mike_l

ThePrettyDamned said:

not_the_dj;447442" said:

mike_l said:

@not_the_dj  Yes it does, I've yet to find an unmodded Boss dirt that doesn't have some leakage.





Poo, I like the idea of these false harmonics that @ICBM was on about, but only for a couple of songs in the set, and I need to be nice and clean for others.

What else (cheap) should I be looking at?

They don't all leak, and apparently it's only an issue with high output pickups. I've played a couple with no leak, and some with quite a bit - enough that I wouldn't want to own it.

@icbm can explain why, but if you put a buffered signal in front, it apparently fixes it. So a buffered wah or something would stop the leakage.

Stick a low-set noise-gate after it, and it clears up.........

I've had the leakage from my Strat's single coils as much as from high-output 'buckers..........(and I've had/tried most Boss dirts at some point.......)