Musicians at gigs with £150 haircuts wanting the borrow everything?

fretfinder

Rox said:

A Cautionary Tale.

Once, a guitarist at a gig was allowed to play another guitarists guitar.  He loved playing it very very much, and the owner of the guitar - likely under the influence of drugs and/or drink - agreed to give the young lad the guitar for nothing.

Poor Peter Green.   

I believe Greeny initially loaned the LP to a teenage Gazza and later sold it to him for about $300, which was what he'd paid for it in the first place.

Cirrus

Actually thinking about it... this is the main reason I like to bring a combo amp. No awkward conversations where I try to dress up the fact I don't want to use the horrible 4x12 with 3 blown speakers that someone has provided for the night, and other guitarists are much less likely to ask to borrow a combo so once I'm done playing it can get loaded into the car ready for a quick exit when the singer starts a fight!

When I used a separate cab it was either superfluous because there was already a cab up there and I'd be 'precious' for using my own, or I had to lend it to the other bands, which I'm fine with in principle but when it's a 2x12 of greenbacks or Blues usually means I'm worried someone will blow a speaker. But you try explaining to a non-technical promoter or guitarist why you're not that happy with someone plugging an EVH III 100 watt head into a 30 or 50 watt cab - they'll always think you're being a cock.

Someone once asked if they could borrow a lead, strap and plectrum.

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Rox

fretfinder said:

Rox said:

A Cautionary Tale.

Once, a guitarist at a gig was allowed to play another guitarists guitar.  He loved playing it very very much, and the owner of the guitar - likely under the influence of drugs and/or drink - agreed to give the young lad the guitar for nothing.

Poor Peter Green.   

I believe Greeny initially loaned the LP to a teenage Gazza and later sold it to him for about $300, which was what he'd paid for it in the first place.

Don't ruin a perfectly good tale with your tawdry 'facts'. 

Whenever I've seen the story told on documentaries, they always seem to say the guitar was 'given' to Moore.

Loobs

Is it actually possible for a bloke to get a 150 quid haircut? I wanna see this.

ICBM

Rox said:

fretfinder said:

Rox said:

A Cautionary Tale.

Once, a guitarist at a gig was allowed to play another guitarists guitar.  He loved playing it very very much, and the owner of the guitar - likely under the influence of drugs and/or drink - agreed to give the young lad the guitar for nothing.

Poor Peter Green.   

I believe Greeny initially loaned the LP to a teenage Gazza and later sold it to him for about $300, which was what he'd paid for it in the first place.

Don't ruin a perfectly good tale with your tawdry 'facts'. 

Whenever I've seen the story told on documentaries, they always seem to say the guitar was 'given' to Moore.

According to Moore, Green actually said "sell your guitar and give me whatever you get for it" - Moore's guitar at the time was a new-ish Les Paul Custom, so it wasn't nothing, although still worth a lot less (even then) than a '59 Standard.

Rox

Loobs said:

Is it actually possible for a bloke to get a 150 quid haircut? I wanna see this.

Here's a $150 haircut:

http://nypost.com/2013/10/16/the-150-haircut-that-got-me-laid/

ICBM

Philly_Q said:

I'm just wondering who charges £150 for a haircut.

Does it look like this?

I'm guessing more like this these days…

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a0/41/9c/a0419cff5b06d0610f151036ef1d842c.jpg

hotpot

:-O 150 quid for an bloody haircut! I nearly shit in me keks when I read that.

EricTheWeary

I often have to remember a plectrum on behalf of our singer and sometimes a tuner and he 'shares' my spare guitar in event of problems ( which if he uses his Gretsch is almost certain). He does remember the entire PA though!

scrumhalf

Philly_Q said:

I'm just wondering who charges £150 for a haircut.

Does it look like this?

He used to cut my hair back when he was plain old Chris Hammill. I cannot imagine it cost me more than a few quid.

Aidanspaghetti

True tale this.. It's worse when it's your own band sabotage YOU! Was playing a bike rally, big hotel, huge audience all pissed/drugged up..great fun. Rockin an old 70's Marshall and 4x12 when the singer busts a string. What does the twat do? Grabs my strat (I'm playing an rg) and starts beating it. Then I bust two strings on my rg, spare in the hands of a yodelling twat. Horrible floating trem no floaty no more ... Then he busts the strings on my strat in the same breath. Y couldn't write it. True. Red faced and mortified and put me in bad form... Idiots.

jeztone2

Phil_aka_Pip;637076" said:

english_bob said:



bingefeller said:

What is landfill indie?

Basically mediocre, disposable noughties "indie" music- Scouting for Girls and that.





so, similar to eighties and nineties indie then - trashy guitars strummed badly through trashy tranny amps using boring rhythms?





BTW how did the OP know that bloke had a £150 haircut? Did he ask him what he paid for it?

One of my Ex's was a hairdresser.

PolarityMan

DefaultM said:

Had this happen on Friday with someone asking to borrow the bass cab because he didn't own one. He was told no.
I assume he doesn't own one because he doesn't have the money, so if he breaks someone else's he's certainly not going to pay out for a new one is he?

Fair enough if your amp just broke and you're desperate, but don't join a gigging band if you don't have the gear in the first place. An electric instrument is pretty quiet without amplification and you're going to look pretty stupid if everyone else says no.

I bet it's cos he's actually a guitarist.

Sassafras

It's not that hard to spend £150 at the hairdressers, my ex-missus never had trouble spending even more than that.

John Kerry, American secretary of state, regularly spends $2000 on his haircuts.

Me, I use a set of no 2 clippers on what's left of my hair. Costs me nothing.

John_P

gigable gear is so cheap these days, there is no excuse.  Apart from an emergency and something breaking (when they should have a spare) If they are don't have enough wits to own and transport gear then they probably don't have enough sense and respect to look after your gear.   It's a simple no.

NervousJohn

My band were the opening act at a pub in Brighton once. After turning up on time, we sat around waiting for the "headliners" to arrive. At which point a spotty kid bounces up to me and says "I need to borrow your amp".

I told him firmly that as we would be finishing at 8.30 and he would be unlikely to be on before 10.30 I would be most of the way up a27 by then.

I'm a miserable old git sometimes

cbilly22

Lent a particularly annoying bunch of Indie types a head and cab and watched open mouthed as the guitarist unplugged the cab with the head live....
Now I'm not proud of my revenge but it was bordering on evil genius.....
The offending guitarist also asked to use my tuner which I refused as I didn't trust him with my board. I did offer him the lend of a clip on though, which I reset from 440 tuning to not quite 440 tuning. I didn't feel bad then or now, he was a twat.

chrispy108

As a bassist it was pretty rare I'd end up using my bass amp, but it was always in the car ready to go, and I'd always check before that the owner of the amp was genuinely happy to share, and if he minded me using a distortion pedal with it. With facebook and the like there is no excuse for not getting in touch in advance. I'd also offer to let them use my pedalboard if there was anything they fancied trying, which was something that was taken up about half the time.

I once sat with a headlining band watching the first support act, and the 'singer' of the opening band decided to jump off the bass drum, owned by the headliner, twice. Fortunately for the singer, it was his old kit he took to shitty gigs, so 'all' that happened was the drummer pulled him off the front of the stage after the second time and made himself very clear...

UnclePsychosis

Sassafras;637704" said:

It's not that hard to spend £150 at the hairdressers, my ex-missus never had trouble spending even more than that.

John Kerry, American secretary of state, regularly spends $2000 on his haircuts.Me, I use a set of no 2 clippers on what's left of my hair. Costs me nothing.

A friend of mine wrote/directed a short film about the power that the people who cut the Prime Ministers hair have. It sounds ridiculous but in today's "doesn't he look funny eating a sandwich" level of media interest one slip of the clippers and you're changing elections :-D

UnclePsychosis

Anyway back on topic I think some of these "never lend gear under any circumstances" posts are just not realistic in the gigging scene as far as I'm concerned.

These multi band gigs just don't work if every single band insists on changing all the gear between sets, you need some kind of sharing or else it takes too long to change over.

I have no problem sharing amps, PA and drums so long as it's all arranged in advance, everyone knows what the score is and everyone is happy. Contact the promoter, contact the other bands, arrange what's happening.

Turning up with no guitar is just weird though. Actual instruments and pedals should never be shared unless it's very unique circumstances and arranged in advance.