Dirty fingers pickups

Fortheloveofguitar

Hes sold 11 pairs in the last month on his feedback and was advertising until today that he had 10+ pairs available.

EdGrip

It doesn't say "Geuine Gibson" anywhere; only "Genuine Dirty Fingers". Indeed, the brand is listed as "Dirty Fingers", not Gibson. 

EdGrip

Although tbf, it says "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing" at the top, so when you looked it might have said "Genuine Gibson".

EdGrip

http://r.ebay.com/QRzZSO

Here's another listing from the same seller which only uses the phrase "for Gibson". I'm sending the link to Gibson, so we'll see what happens.

Maynehead

EdGrip said:

It doesn't say "Geuine Gibson" anywhere; only "Genuine Dirty Fingers". Indeed, the brand is listed as "Dirty Fingers", not Gibson. 

That's a valid point, but I'd still wait for the resistance readings before making any conclusions. Anything other than 16Kohms then they're most probably fake.

Fortheloveofguitar

Maynehead;646600" said:

EdGrip said:

It doesn't say "Geuine Gibson" anywhere; only "Genuine Dirty Fingers". Indeed, the brand is listed as "Dirty Fingers", not Gibson. 





That's a valid point, but I'd still wait for the resistance readings before making any conclusions. Anything other than 16Kohms then they're most probably fake.

They could be 16k and still be fake

Fortheloveofguitar

The in-law just said his measured at 15.5k on both.

I read somewhere that reissue Dirty Fingers should be between 16-16.6k

EdGrip

I should think that's within spec, but as you say, doesn't mean they're not fake.

Adam_MD

Fortheloveofguitar said:

The in-law just said his measured at 15.5k on both.

I read somewhere that reissue Dirty Fingers should be between 16-16.6k

They could be genuine with those measurements the dc resistance can vary quite a lot in different temperatures etc. 

ICBM

If that's with them connected to the pots the actual pickup resistance will be about right. As already said, it doesn't mean they're real, but it does mean that it's likely both coils are working, about the right impedance and that they're wired in series.

It doesn't prove they're in phase though - if they're not, it would produce a thin, bright tone.

Do they have four-conductor cable, and if so which wires are connected where?

suspiciousminds

I'll look at mine tonight - i'm sure theyre 4 conducter and a bare wire and they do have a thin bright sound which isnt what i expected - i mean, its not unpleasant at all, just not what i expected the DF pickups to be like.
If i remember right i bought mine in the assumption they were genuine gibson pups.

Maynehead

At least we now know that they're not definitely fake, as opposed to definitely not fake... :P

I got a suspicion that the "fake" ones with 16KOhms and gold screws may actually be the OEM ones from the Epi Phrophecy series, i.e. not fake. Just a gut feel though based on what I've read.

Real fake ones I would expect to either not measure up or look wrong or sound terrible (noisy, feedback at high volumes etc), or all of the above.

blueskunk

Just get ash or mark mojo to make some ?

Fortheloveofguitar

My father in-law has installed his this afternoon and his sound weak and thin too.

He's sending them back for a refund after opening a Paypal case

suspiciousminds

Ok
So i desoldered mine today and i've rewired it up as per the instruction for wiring a gibson humbucker off their website which i didnt do before and they work fine now - quite powerful - and measure just under 16k.
The green/red wires on both pups were soldered together originally so i assumed they were for the coil splitting and taped them up - now i've soldered and taped up the green and white and they work fine.
Maybe thats why they're cheaper?

ICBM

Aha -  the pickup was wired out of phase with itself.

If it came like that from the factory, that's a classic case of copyists, while being able to copy something, not knowing enough to understand why the original is designed the way it is...