Game of Thrones

darthed1981

munckee said:

darthed1981 said:

I think killing Dany would probably best be either Jon or maybe Tyrion, or maybe Drogon eats her...

I reckon Tyrion gets executed pretty early in ep 6.

If he does, expect hopefully a series-saving speech before hand...

littlegreenman

"Those guitars" in action, with a surprise appearance from Dan Weiss!

ChuckManual

munckee said:

I reckon Tyrion gets executed pretty early in ep 6.

If it's by dragon, Dany might be in for a surprise...

RandallFlagg

DannyP said:

 

That spear thing that Arya had Gendry make for her had a dragon glass blade.

Maybe Arya does the deed with that?

I forgot about that, has this weapon been seen or used yet? If not, surely it must have been shown for a reason? 

Bezzer

RandallFlagg said:

I forgot about that, has this weapon been seen or used yet? If not, surely it must have been shown for a reason? 

Didn't she kill half the white walkers with it in WInterfell?

BeardyAndy

Bezzer said:

RandallFlagg said:

I forgot about that, has this weapon been seen or used yet? If not, surely it must have been shown for a reason? 

Didn't she kill half the white walkers with it in WInterfell?

Yeah, and then stabbed the Night King with it! Isn't anyone paying attention this year? 

Bezzer

BeardyAndy said:

Yeah, and then stabbed the Night King with it! Isn't anyone paying attention this year? 

Not sure if baiting me to say "no she didn't, it was ..." or not.

darthed1981

Just to clarify to all...

You don't make someone a white walker by stabbing them with anything.

Valyrian steel (forged with dragon fire) and dragonglass kill white walkers and wights (not the same thing).

We have seen the creation of

A white walker - one of Craster's unwanted boy children (he doesn't want to share his girl kids, this show huh) gets poked with the Night King's finger and turns white walker

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

rsvmark

As a construction professional. Clause 22 of most jct contract variants for specified perils accounts for fire and force majure. Does this cover a fuck off dragon puking fire? Not so sure...

BeardyAndy

Bezzer said:

BeardyAndy said:

Yeah, and then stabbed the Night King with it! Isn't anyone paying attention this year? 

Not sure if baiting me to say "no she didn't, it was ..." or not.

Oh yeah, my bad  It was Bran's dagger.

I remembered her splitting the spear in 2 and thought for minute it was that, forgot the Bran bit! I'd had a few whiskeys that night!!

Bridgehouse

darthed1981 said:

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

Leaf, one of the COTF pushed a dragon glass dagger into the chest of one of the first men creating the night king....

darthed1981

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

Leaf, one of the COTF pushed a dragon glass dagger into the chest of one of the first men creating the night king....

Having just re-watched it...

...I'll give you it does sort of make it look like a stabbing with Dragonglass would have that affect, but I don't think it is trying to imply that you stab anyone with Dragonglass they turn into a White Walker.

It seems to be like they almost replaced their hearts with Dragonglass, which would explain their vulnerability to it.

Bridgehouse

darthed1981 said:

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

Leaf, one of the COTF pushed a dragon glass dagger into the chest of one of the first men creating the night king....

Having just re-watched it...

...I'll give you it does sort of make it look like a stabbing with Dragonglass would have that affect, but I don't think it is trying to imply that you stab anyone with Dragonglass they turn into a White Walker.

It seems to be like they almost replaced their hearts with Dragonglass, which would explain their vulnerability to it.

“We needed to save ourselves from you... from men”

Night King was created to temper the actions of men. Now, as it happened it didn’t go so well and the Night King threatened everyone eventually - but.. and it’s a big but.. Arya killed him a little too easily. Could Bran come to the realisation that the NK is necessary to stop the evil of man? Could Dani’s actions in the last episode prompt him to persuade Jon that the threat needs to exist to restore the balance in Westeros? 

Seems the show is hinting that once the NK is gone, then “man” returns to the old ways and goes all Uber destructive (with Dani’s actions) 

There’s lots of theories floating around about the Bran/3 eyed raven link to the NK etc but maybe his purpose as the keeper of man’s records is to always remind mankind that without the threat uniting them then they will always return to destruction. Perhaps the COTF created the 3ER for exactly that purpose, and that’s why Bran was shown the vision in the first place. 

GRRM is one for allegory - esp the possible climate change one - this gives a bit of weight to the theory. Either way, the exact method of creation is sort of irrelevant - Bran doesn’t get white-walkered when the NK touches him.. maybe he has the power to create a Night Queen - and he gives Jon that ability with a dragon glass dagger. 

Cols

Because we’re a guitar forum, this seemed fitting:

https://youtu.be/QCHlCiB98N4

BeardyAndy

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

Leaf, one of the COTF pushed a dragon glass dagger into the chest of one of the first men creating the night king....

Having just re-watched it...

...I'll give you it does sort of make it look like a stabbing with Dragonglass would have that affect, but I don't think it is trying to imply that you stab anyone with Dragonglass they turn into a White Walker.

It seems to be like they almost replaced their hearts with Dragonglass, which would explain their vulnerability to it.

“We needed to save ourselves from you... from men”

Night King was created to temper the actions of men. Now, as it happened it didn’t go so well and the Night King threatened everyone eventually - but.. and it’s a big but.. Arya killed him a little too easily. Could Bran come to the realisation that the NK is necessary to stop the evil of man? Could Dani’s actions in the last episode prompt him to persuade Jon that the threat needs to exist to restore the balance in Westeros? 

Seems the show is hinting that once the NK is gone, then “man” returns to the old ways and goes all Uber destructive (with Dani’s actions) 

There’s lots of theories floating around about the Bran/3 eyed raven link to the NK etc but maybe his purpose as the keeper of man’s records is to always remind mankind that without the threat uniting them then they will always return to destruction. Perhaps the COTF created the 3ER for exactly that purpose, and that’s why Bran was shown the vision in the first place. 

GRRM is one for allegory - esp the possible climate change one - this gives a bit of weight to the theory. Either way, the exact method of creation is sort of irrelevant - Bran doesn’t get white-walkered when the NK touches him.. maybe he has the power to create a Night Queen - and he gives Jon that ability with a dragon glass dagger. 

If Jon stabs Dany and turns her into the Night Queen she's going to be proper pissed!

darthed1981

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

Bridgehouse said:

darthed1981 said:

The Night King - the children of the forest created him with magic...

Leaf, one of the COTF pushed a dragon glass dagger into the chest of one of the first men creating the night king....

Having just re-watched it...

...I'll give you it does sort of make it look like a stabbing with Dragonglass would have that affect, but I don't think it is trying to imply that you stab anyone with Dragonglass they turn into a White Walker.

It seems to be like they almost replaced their hearts with Dragonglass, which would explain their vulnerability to it.

“We needed to save ourselves from you... from men”

Night King was created to temper the actions of men. Now, as it happened it didn’t go so well and the Night King threatened everyone eventually - but.. and it’s a big but.. Arya killed him a little too easily. Could Bran come to the realisation that the NK is necessary to stop the evil of man? Could Dani’s actions in the last episode prompt him to persuade Jon that the threat needs to exist to restore the balance in Westeros? 

Seems the show is hinting that once the NK is gone, then “man” returns to the old ways and goes all Uber destructive (with Dani’s actions) 

There’s lots of theories floating around about the Bran/3 eyed raven link to the NK etc but maybe his purpose as the keeper of man’s records is to always remind mankind that without the threat uniting them then they will always return to destruction. Perhaps the COTF created the 3ER for exactly that purpose, and that’s why Bran was shown the vision in the first place. 

GRRM is one for allegory - esp the possible climate change one - this gives a bit of weight to the theory. Either way, the exact method of creation is sort of irrelevant - Bran doesn’t get white-walkered when the NK touches him.. maybe he has the power to create a Night Queen - and he gives Jon that ability with a dragon glass dagger. 

It's certainly a theory...

I'm not sure the show will do much more in the last episode than a last murder spree at this point, but some kind of reinforcing of the moral messages of the show would go down well...

darthed1981

BeardyAndy said:

If Jon stabs Dany and turns her into the Night Queen she's going to be proper pissed!

To be fair, she will be just as pissed if he doesn't de-clutter...

Bridgehouse

@darthed1981 - lots of traction on the fan theory sites. Along with the “3 eyed raven = lord of light” theory as well

ToneControl

Bran to warg into the dragon, and throw Dany off from 2000 feet in the air

fretmeister

I’ve seen a few ideas that Bran warged into Drogon to make him burn the city already, just to make D look bad.

But that wouldn’t fit the necessary narrative of her turning into a psycho.