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We don't actually ask for a lot in return for keeping the forum going.
To put it into context, the profit that we make from the calendars won't even cover the hosting costs for a year - and we don't pay anything like standard hosting charges.
With our traffic volumes, we'd easily raise a lot more ££s by taking advertising and infesting the forum with banner ads, sidebar ads, pop-up ads, advertorial content, etc, etc. And with that would doubtless come "management" of content so as not to piss off the money men.
But we prefer to keep it ad & interference free.
We don't even ask for money-for-free. We try to give you something (in this case, the calendar) in return for your financial support.
As an encourager, and @TTony doesn't know this yet, but I'm going to pay for the P&P of the calendars out of my own pocket so all the profit goes back to the Fretboard PayPal account for hosting and stuff.
TBH, we wouldn't be doing the calendars at all this year without you stepping in as there's no way I could have done the admin, so you've already helped hugely in getting these done.
Thanks.
One is enough. None isn't.
I know some folks are less flush than others..
Tadaa!
Remember - I want 3 more than my current total before Mr February gets posted!
February can now be revealed:
Usual rules - want to see March? At least 3 more orders before it can happen!
Why don't you charge these guys a small subscription? I'm certain this forum has driven a lot of sales for many of said dealers/builders seems only fair. (Or at minimum they should buy a calendar)
We're also aware that taking payments from businesses opens us to them requesting more favourable treatment. Not saying that they *would*, but if we became reliant on their funding. It'd be a risk. Imagine if Andertons had supported us financially, and then seen some of the Chappers comments ...
Imagine the cries of of censorship (etc) if we'd started deleting comments and coolering people to protect that revenue ...
But deciding not to pursue those opportunities has a cost.
Hence we try to raise funds internally - from those who value our reasonably light moderation, or who choose to benefit from free Classifieds, or have received a lot of (free) advice, but still need a prompt to donate, or a "something" in return for their support.
I'd hope that it'd get easier with time, as people recognised the value that they get and felt more willing to support us.
But it's certainly not getting any easier. We'd raise more money sat with an old dog in a shop doorway.
I guess what us members need to realise is when it really does become too hard and you guys get fed up with it, then this place disappears.. and that really would be a shame...
Kudos to @ThorpyFX for give aways and what not. Lets hope some of the others follow suit
For example for £10 a year you can have a 'premium member' title or something with some other small perks that wouldn't cost money to implement?
I've learned a great deal in my very short time here and everyone I've dealt with on a personal level that I've been in contact with via this forum have been top guys.
I'm hardly flush but I know I'd do my bit. Hell I've had more than £10 worth of advice just this week from this forum.