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Did I really just read that .....
Got a licence for your TV? Your nine year old watch that? So she's licensed by proxy of you? There's another idea - parents taking responsibility for their brats so if they run granny over the parent is culpable. So require the parents to get the licence/permit/paperwork or whatever and add the child on the condition of responsibility for their child's actions.
Doesn't have to be administered through the DVSA, although I already see that under Cat Q it looks like they might be trialing e-scooters.
Or it could be something done through the school, similar to how we once upon a time used to have a cycling proficiency course.
The point is, it requires more than just taking an escooter out of a box and setting off down the pavement on it. It requires some kind of recognition that the machine is potentially deadly and needs a degree of care in its operation.
There is no 'H' in Aych, you know that don't you? ~ Wife
Turns out there is an H in Haych! ~ Sporky
Bit of trading feedback here.
I'm not a fan of E scooters, but asking kids to get a license to ride a bike is ridiculous. You can go faster on a conventional bike than on a legal E bike, so there is no point licensing E bikes unless you are going to license all bikes - which is a total non-starter.
But if you're asking for solutions then you throw everything out there and see what sticks, daft as it might seem at the time.
That said, there's going to be a crossover with e-bikes and e-motorcycles a some point as battery powered motorcycles become more prolific. I was almost mown down by an e-bike in the middle of Newport a couple of years ago, it was going some lick so they are capable machines and arguably much more dangerous than motorcycles, simply because you don't need any official training, licensing or insurance to put one on the road.
I can't see them at some point not being categorised as mopeds or something, or a separate licence category being created for them.
That's just my two pence worth.
There is no 'H' in Aych, you know that don't you? ~ Wife
Turns out there is an H in Haych! ~ Sporky
Bit of trading feedback here.
In Singapore - a famously "you can't do that" state - they legalised them quickly long with the requirement to be insured, and harsh penalty for using uninsured, and it was enforced. Consequently people pootle along sensibly on pavements in and out of pedestrians and it seems to work fine.
Most (not all) of the ones I've seen in the UK have been being effectively joyridden dangerously and exuberantly
There’s less of a difference between an e-scooter and an electric moped.
My trading feedback: https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/210335/yorkie
What I do know about my town, Perth, is that everyone drives everywhere, because congestion, whilst occasionally bad, is easily avoidable, and parking in town is relatively plentiful. We have loads of empty pavements, because few people walk, some of which in my opinion we could afford to convert to cycle paths, for the young, inexperienced and less confident people to get on their bikes. I suggested this at some point to those responsible for green travel plans, however they were not at all for it - they just could not countenance converting pedestrian space to cycling space.
When I cycle, I do it on the road and it is largely a pleasurable experience, because most people driving are actually ok - just the occasional wank, just as you get wanks that sometimes ride bikes. You see it's wanks that are the problem, not the actual mode of travel - suspect that might also be the case for these e-things too.
When my son cycles, I have no problem with him using the aforesaid empty pavements, because he is less experienced and still has a way to go before I'd be confident he new the rules of defensive riding. The one rule I would say he should follow, is to show respect to people walking, giving way whenever there is choice to be made. He will naturally start riding more on the road, as his confidence, maturity, keenness to get places quickly and experience grows.
Trivial point - pushbike in my opinion is a pretty inaccurate term made up by people who ride motorbikes, so they can continue to look down their noses and differentiate themselves from people on bikes. Slightly 'grinds my gears'...
You’re looking at this from a well off perspective , I could justify spending a couple of hundred on an e scooter and it would get me to the surrounding out of town shops etc or the next towns without having to pay £5 for the bus . I could not afford to buy or justify an ebike unless it was about £299 399 they are currently at least £1500 quid or half second hand i can’t justify spending that
Fair enough - maybe pedestrians can get a taser force-field to give powered riders a wee shock when they get too close.
I also carry pepper spray in case of aggressive beggars.