http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29218177I think it is easy to produce acceptable noises with a guitar within a short time of starting to play it. This is not true of violins. The curve from beginner to mastery is a different shape, the steep bits are in different places. But I agree with JE, the height from bottom to top of curve is no different.
Anyone else have any other thoughts?
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Yeah, I agree. I think that most instruments have a similar distance from beginner to master. Some are really easy to get a nice sound out of straight away - e.g. piano - and some take a while to get a sound out at all - e.g. flute. As a result some are better for kids because their level of interest can be kept for longer.
Of course, this isn't true for all instruments. Give a bass to any idiot with more than three fingers and the ability to make tea and they'll be band-ready by lunchtime.
I think people have a bad take on what mastery is. To my mind it's the process of self control while acquiring, and the reason I value that view is who the hell wants to arrive? There's always more to learn. If you don't enjoy leanring you'll be asking "are we nearly there yet?" and when you get there, then what? complacency.
Another reason I think people don't get mastery is, the black belt grading involves a 2000 word essay on what a black belt is... yet if I say I do Karate, I get asked "what belt are you?" .. "blue" .. "oh" [confusion] because the black belt is easier to understand? Funny why get people who've been studying for a minimum of 3 years to write an essay on it if it's common knowledge.
Finally, it's apples and oranges, violin is a matrix of perfect fourths without frets, so knowledge of pitch is needed.. whereas a guitar can be tuned countless nonsensicle ways - the two are taught in schools but few people learn guitar in the formal style - so the learning curve for guitar will vary wildly.
Now a mastery curve is always the same
and why you get a sense of something around anyone who dedicates themselves to something for a long period of time.
But when they had instrument aptitude testing at school, they picked violin and viola - and made extremely fast progress from nothing to being able to produce musical sounds. Neither of them has ever made the typical 'strangled cat noises' to any great degree, even when they were beginners. I'm not saying they are virtuosos, but they were both much better at it than I would have expected for a supposedly 'difficult' instrument, very quickly. I have no idea why.
So what this shows is that aptitude for instruments is a very individual thing, and that the school assessors know what they're doing.
But being a bassist, he can probably count . At least to four...
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wish that wasn't true, I'd love to play the fiddle.
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Far too much violins in the world today!
My younger brother played violin, the thing is with violin it gets pushed over other instruments like the viola which is just as cool in my books.
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@DLM will google Patrick Rondat, fanx
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