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It's also the general attitude, I just asked a seller who mentions he is in London for pickups, whereabouts in London he was, and I got back 4 replies telling how he feels his postage fees are fair, all I asked was whereabouts in London are you....
I see some guitars even listed here that I remember from the original listing, at least £1000 mark up. Even the chibson are selling for more than you can buy them from china. I guess just like in politics and war, deception is the key ingredient. Ok, maybe that's going a bit far.
I also remember buying a Fender CS on here for £1800, now they're a minimum of £3800 with most of them being around the masterbuilt marks.....but then again, if you want an American Vintage, you'll be paying close to those numbers anyway.
I'm gonna list my stuff on ebay auction and be done with it!
It's an odd market at the moment though as inflation is pushing up the costs of new guitars but we're also in cost of living crisis. Hard to know what to make of it and what consumers are doing what. Buying and selling guitars is pretty niche anyway - selling through the classifieds on this forum is double, extra niche.
https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/202071/nco
That is exactly how I've done it, and price mine £200 less than the rest, should be a good deal. Or maybe I've still priced it wrong? Who knows....
Just have to be patient
I’ve also seen a lot of really fantastic vintage pieces coming up for sale too. Prices are massively inflated (as is their want), but people are getting rid of stuff for a reason.
Outside of guitar noodling, I run two businesses (one a service the other e-commerce) and I can tell you the market is dead for us and pretty much every other buisness out there.
At the same time, though, I'm seeing insane boutique (ish) bargains in the uses market. Like, non-Fender custom stuff for the new price of an American Pro 2 (or less). This illustrates an interesting divergence between new and used prices. Surely at some point that will start to hurt stores.
There's no right or wrong, the market isn't great. Be patient, listen to offers, keep an eye on prices and adjust when needed.
https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/202071/nco
My band, Red For Dissent
Having said that rare and desirable guitars priced sensibly sell really quickly, even player grade vintage shift quickly.....Jordan guitars sold that ' 66 Tele in a couple of days.
It's also about niche guitars. I do love ESP navigators, buying them, they're expensive, selling them you need to go cheap otherwise it won't move as not many know about them and they're not cheap enough to take a chance on.
And yes, a lot of people are listing guitars for crazy prices hoping they'd sell.
Anyone familiar with Antonio Guitars? He is an amateur luthier based in Romania that started making ESP explorer copies, at £6k a pop! He even sent one to metallica, it was rejected apparantely. Anyway, he has 3 gibson explorer that I assumed he used to make the templates of his copies. Apparantely, Gibson used Honduran mahogany and brazilian rosewood for some of the 80's explorers that makes them 10 steps above ESP
Check those prices
Passionforguitars indeed - https://reverb.com/shop/passionforguitars
£1200 sale or £1400 for trade.
That works if you're a car dealer. We're here as kinda like minded people and I think to offer the above detracts from the forum values and just shows people as out to make a bob or 2.
You then say but I've given you a low price for a quick cash sale and get a so what, that's what you offered it to me for so I expect the same in trade against my inflated price.