Discovery Sport or Jaguar F Pace

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munckee said:

bacchanalian said:

I bought a Discovery Sport last year, fully aware of the potential hassles with Diesel.  I am expecting this to be the last diesel car I ever buy. JLR are developing a petrol hybrid.
The Discovery has been a great family car, plenty of room, feels safe. 
If you are concerned about reliability, JLR are much the same as any of the German cars and some of those are surprisingly bad compared to Korean and Japanese manufacturers
When I was doing my research the big KIA and HYUNDAI consistently came out on top.

I got a sportage brand new as a 3 year lease car last year, got a lot further up the spec than I would with the BMW x1 which was too small or the Tiguan and I was just a little bored of VWs, sportage is absolutely great all leathers, sat nav, DAB apple radio sliding glass roof, 2.0 diesel auto is fast enough, lovely to drive big boot.

Main sellers for me was more leg room in the rear than Mazda CX5, Nissan Xtrail, Renault whatever that thing is and Ateca's and USB points in the rear for chargers.

Only downside is not pretty MPG as AWD auto but otherwise really enjoying driving it.

Mmm....we had 2 Kia's at work and both suffered a horrible death...dreadful customer service, and zero resale value.

Moe_Zambeek

rlw said:

Girly?

It’s not particularly butch looking, is it? Kind of like a friendly little frog. Older brother to a Juke, maybe? Or perhaps the illicit love child of a VW Beetle and Tiguan?

its at least not as howfing as the bigger version, whatever it’s called. 

Sporky

Dominic said:

Stop pussying around and commit to the full-fat Bentayga with all the options ............
Ideally,get a black one and you too can pretend that you are a London Black cab from a distance !

Try hailing one.

No, really. It's very funny. They get so angry.

jellyroll

This thread is of interest as we are thinking of renewing our car, probably for an "Urban SUV" but none of them really grab me. 

Macan looks nice but not sure I want spend that much.

Alfa is interesting but I feel like I'd want something less lunatic than the Quadrofoglio but spicier than the base model.  

My wife likes the look of the Merc GLC. Anybody have thoughts on those?

Snap

GLC - nice cars, but I don't like the Merc interior, prefer the BMW style. Dunno, too many circles in the Merc, could be it. Good cars though, especially the more powerful ones. Not sure the quality is as good as BM. I had a GL (the big one) for a few days - crap really. BLand drive. Took it all over the place, just left me feeling a bit "meh". All very nice, but not particularly engaging to drive. The GLC will be better though.

I had a look at a Macan - my view was, save your money and buy a Q5. They are quite small, something not quite right about them. The Cayenne isn't that big either.

FX_Munkee

At that level I'd be looking at the new XC90 personally.

jellyroll

thanks @Snap. Haven't seen the new Cayenne but I thought the old one was ugly. Q5 I find uninspiring. 

@FX_Munkee - agree Volvo merits looking at. 

My heart still says Alfa though......

FX_Munkee

jellyroll said:

thanks @Snap. Haven't seen the new Cayenne but I thought the old one was ugly. Q5 I find uninspiring. 

@FX_Munkee - agree Volvo merits looking at. 

My heart still says Alfa though......

As an ex-Alfa owner and genuine lover of (most things) Alfa. I'd say you should get the Volvo.

Snap

@jellyroll

Lexus NX?

Sporky

jellyroll said:

Alfa is interesting but I feel like I'd want something less lunatic than the Quadrofoglio but spicier than the base model.  

There's a 280PS version that look reasonably perky.

For some reason a lot of Alfa fans don't like the Giulia and Stelvio even though they're obviously the best cars AR have made in many decades.

jellyroll

Snap said:

@jellyroll

Lexus NX?

Too pointy

jellyroll

FX_Munkee said:

jellyroll said:

thanks @Snap. Haven't seen the new Cayenne but I thought the old one was ugly. Q5 I find uninspiring. 

@FX_Munkee - agree Volvo merits looking at. 

My heart still says Alfa though......

As an ex-Alfa owner and genuine lover of (most things) Alfa. I'd say you should get the Volvo.

As an ex-Alfa owner myself, you're probably right. I've had two Alfas, the pretty-but-slow late 90s Spider and my favourite ever car - the apparently dull but beautiful to drive 155. I still have dreams about the handling of that car. True story - I gave the car away to my postman. 

jellyroll

Sporky said:

jellyroll said:

Alfa is interesting but I feel like I'd want something less lunatic than the Quadrofoglio but spicier than the base model.  

There's a 280PS version that look reasonably perky.

For some reason a lot of Alfa fans don't like the Giulia and Stelvio even though they're obviously the best cars AR have made in many decades.

Oooh I hadn't seen that one. Not sure why the hate for these models. The Giulia has had good reviews. There's a part of me that thinks "fuck it I'm gomnna get the Giulia/Stelvio Quadrofoglio" I know stats aren't everything but an SUV doing 0-60 in 3.8 secs....

FX_Munkee

Sporky said:

jellyroll said:

Alfa is interesting but I feel like I'd want something less lunatic than the Quadrofoglio but spicier than the base model.  

There's a 280PS version that look reasonably perky.

For some reason a lot of Alfa fans don't like the Giulia and Stelvio even though they're obviously the best cars AR have made in many decades.

I like the Giulia, it's the Stelvio I have an issue with. It's just... wrong, like that horrendous Bentley SUV thing. Alfa and SUV shouldn't be 2 words in the same sentence.

Sporky

FX_Munkee said:

Alfa and SUV shouldn't be 2 words in the same sentence.

It's not 1970 any more - get over it.

Bucket

Sporky said:

FX_Munkee said:

Alfa and SUV shouldn't be 2 words in the same sentence.

It's not 1970 any more - get over it.

I've no problem with Alfa making an SUV, but the Stelvio doesn't really sit well with me - the styling is wrong. It has a massive bulbous arse, which I know means a big boot but it looks pretty weird from some angles.

The Giulia looks great though, and if I was in that market I'd have one over a 3 Series or an A4.

Snap

The quadrifoglio, wow, that's a beast isn't it?