Anyone else getting tired of CGI?

WiresDreamDisasters

Maybe I've been hoofin' too much Wickes Steel 140, but I'm really tired of CGI based movies. Where the hell are the STORRRRIIEEEEESSSSSSS !?!?!!!

I blame Tom Cruise. 2012 was dross. Absolute dire, diabolical, diarrhea-otic, DROSS. But that big gloomy "the world is ending" thing has been huge since then.

Every. Fucking. Trailer. Has. The. Same. Fucking. Hans. Zimmer. String. Patch. With. De. Satch. Hurrrrrrrr. Hated colours, gloomy transitions, and BIG FUCKING STINGS UP THE WAZOO!!! It's like being fucked to death by bees!

Trailer steps:

1. Load a desaturated LUT across all your footage.
2. Make your fade-to-black transitions 10 seconds long.
3. Load up Native Instruments THRILL and hold down a diminished FsharpFlatMinorBb# chord/
4. ????
5. Profit. But only if China buys your movie in droves.

Movies are crap now. And yes I'm a cum-smudgeon.

ThorpyFX

Some are crap. Others are ace. Watch “the gentlemen” I loved it

WiresDreamDisasters

ThorpyFX said:

Some are crap. Others are ace. Watch “the gentlemen” I loved it

Looks like a reasonable enough movie. That's not the kind of thing I'm referring to I suppose.

It's more the Marvel/DC thing... fuck you in the eyes with darkness until you bleed to death. Bloody movies are so dark too. If I wanted to know what it felt like to have glaucoma, I'd shoot myself in the eyeballs with a broken toaster!

Sassafras

And why are they always about 5 bloody hours long?

Kittyfrisk

Yup, noted  http://sequart.org/magazine/32555/id-need-a-lobotomy-to-enjoy-thor-the-dark-world/
 Basically coherent or challenging narrative being replaced by 'action' stylee of lots of confusing incoherent CGI visuals plus mahoosive EXPLOSIONS while dialogue is happening.
Plus Tom Hardy "Taboo" type mumbling dialogue FFS.

Oh dear, I'm now officially a grumpy old git (as if no-one knew).

ICBM

Watch the last Star Wars.

Then watch the first Star Wars.

And then understand why CGI is shit.

Especially if you watch the George Lucas remastered version of the original with the added CGI bits, which are horrifically obvious.

zepp76

I feckin hate it (cgi that is), always have done. I love the cheesy 80’s animatronics and special effects of that time. I think the greatest of that time was the transitioning scene from man to werewolf in an American werewolf in London, bloody marvellous! Manimal tv series was pretty great too.

PolarityMan

Look I get it Nocals Cage is really unrealistic looking but there's good cgi too. 

skunkwerx

I dont get the whole killing the good guy characters off thing. 

Its like they cant write decent enough stuff to keep the audience so they turn it into a shock ‘guess whos gonna die in the next instalment’ type thing. 

Fretwired

Yep .. I'd prefer Hollywood crashes a big asteroid in the Earth .. CGI is cheaper than paying for a decent script and good actors.

Caffeine_Vampire

zepp76 said:

I feckin hate it (cgi that is), always have done. I love the cheesy 80’s animatronics and special effects of that time. I think the greatest of that time was the transitioning scene from man to werewolf in an American werewolf in London, bloody marvellous! Manimal tv series was pretty great too.

^ This.

Can't stand CG!I. Maybe a younger generation raised on X-boxes can get something out of it but it's lost on me. 

Chistopher Reeve made me believe a man could fly, Adam West didn't punch anyone who didn't get back up again and Frank Oz's hand up Yodas bum was real enough for me.

phil_b

Caffeine_Vampire said:

zepp76 said:

I feckin hate it (cgi that is), always have done. I love the cheesy 80’s animatronics and special effects of that time. I think the greatest of that time was the transitioning scene from man to werewolf in an American werewolf in London, bloody marvellous! Manimal tv series was pretty great too.

^ This.

Can't stand CG!I. Maybe a younger generation raised on X-boxes can get something out of it but it's lost on me. 

Chistopher Reeve made me believe a man could fly, Adam West didn't punch anyone who didn't get back up again and Frank Oz's hand up Yodas bum was real enough for me.

watch Gladiator and you can see CGI is fantastic when done right (ie when you dont notice it)

the problem is now it is over used and to try and make things spectacular it goes beyond the laws of physics. I liken some modern films to cartoons. It is like watching wile e coyote step off a cliff and not fall until he realises his mistake.

Stratavarious

You forgot.. ‘lens flare’

fields5069

I was always more impressed with movies which achieve more with less. Tom Cruise's senseless remake of Abre Los Ojos may look spectacular, but what tickles me more is knowing that, in the original, they actually managed to empty the Gran Via in Madrid, in the daytime. Except for the guy in one window of a flat overlooking the street. The knowledge gave the scene for more impact, there was no need to suspend disbelief, because it actually happened. I mean I was there 2.5 years and I never saw it empty.

Neil

I guess CGI is cheaper and lazier for the studios.

Compare the real aircraft in The Battle of Britain with CGI stuff in Pearl Harbour, the difference is laughable.

And the old epics like Spartacus etc with hundreds of extras and massive sets instead of a computer generated scene.

Honestly most films nowadays are just like watching a computer game but then my choice is mainly Film Noir from the '40's where a great story could be told in 90 minutes not this modern overblown tripe that goes on seemingly forever. 

Caffeine_Vampire

Modern film = big explosion
Sequel = bigger explosion
Trilogy = biggest explosion


And then there's these bloody amp modelling contraptions...

thecolourbox

It's kind of why I mainly only watch kids films these days, because whilst they are obviously CGI they tendto make no bones about it being a cartoon and thus your expectation is accurate. Whereas when it's just the overblown wooshy bang bang shite it just comes across as the film equivalent of somebody controlling a model railway set with a mobile phone app - needlessly overcomplicated for no real gain whatsoever, overseen by an immature middle aged man

WezV

people were saying CGA was overused 20 years ago when Gladiator was released.


The mark of good CGI is often that you don't notice it, but there are also films where you are fully aware its all CGI and that's fine too.  I don't want everything I watch to look like the real world.

My pet peeve is using CGI when it would be just as easy to use a real world practical solution.   CGI to remove an actors moustache is ridiculous, give the man a shave

ICBM

phil_b said:

the problem is now it is over used and to try and make things spectacular it goes beyond the laws of physics. 

That’s not the problem - the original Star Wars doesn’t obey the laws of physics either, but still looks great.

Emp_Fab

I'm far less bothered by the overuse of CGI clichés than I am with this recent American obsession with "superheroes".  Every other fucking film these days is about some fantasy crime-fighting hero dressed in primary coloured lycra with a 'perfect' body, perfect teeth and a unique 'power'.  What the hell is that all about ?  I'm sure the philosophers can offer answers.  

scrumhalf

The Dam Busters was on yesterday and the very low-tech effects used when showing the dams being breached and the water flooding through didn't really matter much. 

The problem is when CGI becomes the film instead of being a small part of the telling of a story.