Fake pies

Jeremiah

What is the Fretboard's opinion of "pies" that just have a top crust and no sides or base?

Some may argue that they are superior as they allow for a higher filling to pastry ratio, but I disagree. It's not a real pie unless the filling is enclosed by the pastry.

Emp_Fab

I don't care to be honest - it's all grub  

Brio

That's not a pie. That's a stew with a lid on.

Sporky

Brio said:

That's not a pie. That's a stew with a lid on.

Spot on. 

A stew with a lid on can be a good thing. 

It cannot be a pie. 

Kilgore

It's not a pie if you can't eat it without cutlery. 

drofluf

Progress. You get rid of the nasty, soggy pastry.

Just get rid of the gloop that surrounds the meat and then you’re on the way to finding something edible. 

GoFish

drofluf said:

Progress. You get rid of the nasty, soggy pastry.

Just get rid of the gloop that surrounds the meat and then you’re on the way to finding something edible. 

Still not a pie though.

VimFuego

fur pie has no pastry, but it still counts.

swiller

fray bentos sort of get away with it. They are marvellous things really.
But a pie needs a pastry bottom and sides all the way round. (unless it is a slice of a bigger pie).
I think a steak and kidney pudding is a pie  (sloppier) and arguably the best version of a pie in the history of mankind.

Kurtis

Big Muff! 

monquixote

The lack of sides is bad. Cooking the top separate from the filling is unforgivable.

Sassafras

Some pies have got more pastry than filling.
That's not a good thing.

RocknRollDave

Jeremiah said:

What is the Fretboard's opinion of "pies" that just have a top crust and no sides or base?

Some may argue that they are superior as they allow for a higher filling to pastry ratio, but I disagree. It's not a real pie unless the filling is enclosed by the pastry.

THANK YOU! I have been saying this for years.
Finally a kindred spirit.

WezV

Sporky said:

Brio said:

That's not a pie. That's a stew with a lid on.

Spot on. 

A stew with a lid on can be a good thing. 

It cannot be a pie. 

Does that mean a shepherd's/cottage pie isn't a pie either?  Should we aim for all round mash coverage to make it a pie.

Where are we on things like pecan or pumpkin pie that rarely have a lid?  Perverted tarts perhaps.

elstoof

It's a pot pie if it only has a lid

VimFuego

elstoof said:

It's a pot pie if it only has a lid

oh wow, I've been making them wrong all these years.

Philly_Q

I don't mind, but it isn't really a proper pie.  My brother, who is much more of a foodie, gets quite worked up about it. 

He also strongly objects to "crumble" which is just stewed fruit with crumble mixture added on top after cooking.  Again I'm not that bothered, but he's right that the "claggy" bit, where fruit meets crumble during cooking, is the best part of a proper crumble.

Kittyfrisk

VimFuego said:

elstoof said:

It's a pot pie if it only has a lid

oh wow, I've been making them wrong all these years.

They were very cool pies dude, like, whoa, what?..  Love & Peace man.

Philly_Q

WezV said:

Does that mean a shepherd's/cottage pie isn't a pie either?  Should we aim for all round mash coverage to make it a pie.

Where are we on things like pecan or pumpkin pie that rarely have a lid?  Perverted tarts perhaps.

Hmm, I wonder if we're getting into territory where those things, whilst perfectly fine, are not really pies at all?  I admit I have not looked up the dictionary definition.

Americans sometimes call pizzas "pies", and they're really not.

Kurtis

Do you put a pot pie in a pot pie pie pot? 

Sporky

Kurtis said:

Do you put a pot pie in a pot pie pie pot? 

Whatever you do, use butter gif the pastry. 

Not oilseed rapeseed oilseed rapeseed oilseed rapeseed oil.