Worrying weather changes

Emp_Fab

I'm in Cyprus at the mo for my 60th.  I just spent half an hour picking up plastic washed up along the shore - including a used hypodermic syringe.  I was chatting to the sunbed chap who was telling me about how they've had storms bringing in all sorts - including a dead cow (off a cattle ship).  He said they had temperatures recently in Nicosia that they only usually get in July.  He went on to say that they haven't had winter for two years.  He's never seen anything like this before.  He told me of the water shortages because they've had almost no rain in the past two years either and of course all the hotels need huge quantities of 'sweet' (fresh) water and now they are also having to irrigate the crops far more than ever because of the lack of rain.

I went for a swim and usually there are lots of little fish interested in you and what your feet churn up in the sand.....   Nothing....  No sign of any life whatsoever.  Not a single living thing. 

I wonder what the next ten years will bring.

DrCornelius

Emp with the upmost respect and admiration - Switch that brain off and enjoy your holiday !

Neilybob

DrCornelius said:

Emp with the upmost respect and admiration - Switch that brain off and enjoy your holiday !

+1

TeleMaster

No winter for two years? Sign me up!!! 

mrkb

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

robgilmo

We dont really see the effects of global warming here, not to the same extent that other do, its a massive issue for many countries right now.

robgilmo

Just to add , we will see the effects when there is a mass exodus from these countries, this will displace millions.

Danny1969

mrkb said:

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

This is also me ... fears for the future but has 2 foreign holidays a year, either by plane or cruise ship. 

I think big climate change is inevitable. No one wants to be inconvenienced now, no matter how dire the consequences are going to be. The world as a whole doesn't want to pull together to save the planet. We would rather let the countries containing the rain forests razor them to the ground and plant oil palm trees,  than give them any money not to. Meanwhile the righteous countries like Norway pretend to care and be green but in reality just pipe their NS gas to countries who can use way more than Norway ever could. 
Then there's the constant green washing deflection and the miss information about EV's and wind turbines etc spread all over social media by the companies determined to keep selling fossil fuel. 

I reckon we have 20 more good years, then who knows. World W3 probably thought over liveable land regions rather than politics or religion. 

Offset

Danny1969 said:

mrkb said:

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

This is also me ... fears for the future but has 2 foreign holidays a year, either by plane or cruise ship. 

I think it's probably most of us.

Offset

DrCornelius said:

Emp with the upmost respect and admiration - Switch that brain off and enjoy your holiday !

Ha ha!  Yeah come on Emp - you're only 60 once.  Worry about climate change (or rather a lack thereof) when you get back to Wales :-)

Timcito

robgilmo said:

Just to add , we will see the effects when there is a mass exodus from these countries, this will displace millions.

Well, if nothing else, Gen Z will finally have a genuine reason to whine!   

I can see an avalanche of mental health days stacking up on the horizon!  

Emp_Fab

mrkb said:

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

Only the third post in!  Well done that man! 
It was inevitable that someone would have to be the Nelson Muntz.  I think you've grossly overestimated the effect aviation has on global warming.  Apparently it's about 4% in total.  So my 1/200th of a plane trip a few times a year out of the 38.4M flights that take place annually puts my contribution to global warming from flying at roughly 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% in my lifetime.

drofluf

So what you’re saying then is that it’s alright for us all to continue flying because our individual impacts are negligible?

Great news, can I go back to driving everywhere instead of cycling or using public transport on the same basis. 

mrkb

drofluf said:

So what you’re saying then is that it’s alright for us all to continue flying because our individual impacts are negligible?

Great news, can I go back to driving everywhere instead of cycling or using public transport on the same basis. 

Yep, f*ck the rest as my contribution doesnt count...its the others that are to be blamed.

NothingOnTheTele

Emp_Fab said:

mrkb said:

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

Only the third post in!  Well done that man! 
It was inevitable that someone would have to be the Nelson Muntz.  I think you've grossly overestimated the effect aviation has on global warming.  Apparently it's about 4% in total.  So my 1/200th of a plane trip a few times a year out of the 38.4M flights that take place annually puts my contribution to global warming from flying at roughly 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% in my lifetime.

The fact that you could only ever make a miniscule net difference is a poor argument for making no effort at all.

If I threw a Twix wrapper out the car window once a week, it'd only be a tiny fraction of the litter on our roads - so why should I refrain? My income tax forms an infinitesimal percentage of the national budget for public services etc - so why should I pay it?

Climate change will only be tackled through a collective effort. We all have to do our bit.

Tannin

mrkb said:

TLDR - Man from western world who flies off on lots of foreign holidays emitting tonnes of Co2e is worried about climate change while on holiday.

Before we decide whether to give your remarks any credence, answer one question:

How many children do you have? 

Alex2678

It’s not even possible for us to have this conversation without having some degree of environmental effect unless we move the conversation to carrier pigeon and hope they don’t fart. Think we can have a conversation without throwing shame at someone for going on holiday.

Emp_Fab

Not on The Fretboard we can't  

fastonebaz

When we're dead we aren't going to have any inkling of what is happening in the world.

It's a curious trait that some humans crave attention and being hero worshipped by saying they want to "make a difference"  yet the grim reality is, everything anyone ever does is pointless, as we all die soon enough and that's the end of it all for our awareness of what's occurring.

I'm off for another coffee and some biscuits on this groundhog day of existence.

boogieman

robgilmo said:

We dont really see the effects of global warming here, not to the same extent that other do, its a massive issue for many countries right now.

We ARE already seeing some effects though. Flooding is getting more regular as we’re getting more rainfall. Average temperatures are slowly climbing. I think the hottest day ever recorded in the U.K. was at Heathrow only a year or two ago? 

Current predictions are for more wetter and milder winters and hotter, drier summers. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate-change/climate-change-in-the-uk

Emp_Fab

Look. If it makes you happy, global warming is entirely MY fault.  Me personally and nobody else. 

Now, can we talk about the worrying changes in the weather?