Tesla to produce humanoid robots next year. Want one?

Heartfeltdawn

ICBM said:

rze99 said:

By the way, If you're thinking about buying a Tesla, Mr Musk has pledged $45m a month to the Trump campaign.

That seems slightly irrational given that Trump and his cabal are actively opposed to the technology that made Musk rich, but on the other hand he’s not renowned for being rational.

Except when he is. All the folk who were dumbstruck by what he did to Twitter were idiots. Musk made Twitter exactly what he wanted it to be.

GoFish

stickyfiddle said:

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lol even better. As you say Teslas are nowhere that level of self driving. Ol' Musky has been saying it's coming "next year" for at least a decade now. It's vaporware. 
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And Wall Street + shareholders seem to have convenienty forgotten that a big part of Tesla's overvaluation relies on these imminent self driving cars.

robgilmo said:

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Would he be stupid enough to publicaly deny this though? What he did say is that he organised a political action committee, now I wont pretend to understand everything about PAC's however I also wont pretend that the BBC will and has in the past reported lies, it would be interesting to see what his PAC actually does because my limited understanding is that they do more than just pool donated funds and give them to a candidate.
We also have to remember Musk is a business man, not a politician.

He's a con man.

He seemed to fool all of the people for some time and now relies on fooling some all the time. Every year he sets the bar lower in demonstrating his lack of intelligence, class, or morals. He is a pathetic human being whose victims I pity.

Revolutions

RaymondLin said:

I used to lik Musk 

Are you a sexbot?

RaymondLin

stickyfiddle said:

RaymondLin said:

I used to lik Musk, until the pandemic and then he went a bit too cuckoo for my liking.  The whole Twitter takeover and then policy shift shows he is just a bond villain in the making.  want to make Twitter a "Town Hall" on the internet and protect "Free Speech" my butt.  If you ever criticise him on Twitter, you will at minimum get blocked or more likely have your account deleted.

The guy used to support the Democrats I think but about the same time he has shifted very Maga and gone completely off the rails into vile territory. 

Yup. It was the "pedo guy" comments relating to the rescue of the Thai football team in the cave that tipped it over the edge. 

When he was the "socialised renewables for everyone via solar roof & batteries and no more power stations" guy I was all-in. I still fully believe that model would be an incredible way to change the world for the better. I don't even know if he still cares about that

If he only stick to making stuff, building cars and charging infrastructure and space X.  Leave politics and free speech alone.  But I guess the latter really reveal who he really is.  

I’m glad he can’t run for President for the US because I can tell he totally would if he could and there are enough idiots who will vote for him.  If he will delete your account for making a tweet questioning him, imagine what he will do to the free press.

Danny1969

The world's a better place because of Musk. What he has achieved with Tesla and SpaceX is just astounding really. To start a new car company in the noughties, release the first car in 2008 and be the world's most valuable car company by 2024 is just staggering really. The space X story is even more staggering really. 
I don't doubt Opimus will be the market leaded in terms of tech even though it's very much fake it till you make it at the moment. 

I don't doubt Musk is an egotistical megalomaniac though with all kinds of unlikable issues. 

rze99

Nobody that funds Trump will ever get any of my custom. Ever.

PVO_Dave

stickyfiddle said:

Also presumably 2026 and $20k means 2030 and $35k

As much as I don't often agree with your Tesla related posts, this is spot on, it may not be as late or expensive, but you are correct, those targets are very unlikely to be met.  

Musk makes excuses for missing deadlines and price targets as him being too optimistic, maybe he's trying and failing the Steve Jobs approach of something unreasonable by an unreasonable deadline to make it happen, just without the bit that Jobs managed, of actually getting it delivered to those time lines, but does (eventually) deliver. Just very rarely on time or to the price he set out with. 

stickyfiddle said:

rze99 said:

euan said:

He said self driving cars were a year away in 2016 too

They are on the road today of course. 

Some people don't like 'em. What a surprise.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/26/san-francisco-stop-self-driving-cars-traffic-cone-safe-street-rebel

Teslas aren't self-driving; they're just good active cruise control + lane keep assist. They're nowhere near real self-driving, as the cone shenanigans easily demonstrate. 

In the UK it's true, does very little, however, the beta versions in the US, where they aren't restricted by UN regulations, is another story altogether and genuinely impressive;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXd0h0ZZ24g

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As much as I like my Tesla (and they keep improving at a decent rate), Musk has completely gone off the rails, moving away from being seen as someone of a super intellect and great vision to self styled "meme king" and now showing the far right nutcase side. Like a few people mentioned, I used to like the guy and was interested in what he had to say, but just find most of it embarrassing now. 

That said, I wouldn't really avoid buying a product because of the leadership / company history, wouldn't be many products you could own otherwise!

relayar

The Musk ego-bot, for surely it's facial features will be modelled on his own, could well be prone to self-immolation. As such, plugging it into the mains for a recharge could prove to be risky. And if batteries are included (sic) and die, obtaining replacements may well be unobtainium, or difficult to source, if not way too expensive.

Will insurers be willing to provide cover for his/it's misdemeanours or misadventures? I should imagine (wealthy) Beta Testers will be happy to buy in for ego-tripping kudos, whether or not in a commercial or domestic environment.

'Questions... Morphology? Longevity? Incept dates?'

rze99

Let's assume, that, as sophisticated as it might well be, it's just an IT machine. With both hardware and software.

It is of course, a perpetual cyber attack target.

t has to be security patched ALL the time, very quickly.

If you give this thing important tasks - like basic care work - human welfare then depends on it being 100% reliable.

Then.  Imagine you "secure it" with Crowdstrike.

It stops working and core duties fail. 

relayar

'I've done questionable things'

'Also extraordinasry things. Revel in your time.'

'Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for. . .'

Sorry, couldn't resist.