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Dave_Mc

ICBM said:

Branshen said:

Taylor swift over one d any day.

She's getting better too.

wat

she's getting way worse IMO )

usedtobe

I never stopped liking Abba, either, ICBM!

57Deluxe

I refuse to be hoodwinked and thus I sayeth it out load - I love only the Wrong Direction....

RaymondLin

Massive Taylor fan here!

Been listening to her since 2009....most people have not even heard of her then. Love her to bits! And her music too. And she's a really really nice person to boot, the amount of personal stuff she does for her fans is unreal.

And she writes all her own music and plays the guitar. Unlike 1D.

lustycourtier

Great Pop, whats not to like. Same with Taylor. I still chuckle at a thread on the gear page once

'Why doesnr mTaylor Swift play Taylor Guitars?' 

RaymondLin

lustycourtier said:

Great Pop, whats not to like. Same with Taylor. I still chuckle at a thread on the gear page once

'Why doesnr mTaylor Swift play Taylor Guitars?' 

Lol, seriously? Her first guitar was a Koa 12 string, which she still uses on gigs. Talk about a starter guitar.....

Neil

Can't stand any of that modern pop pony but fortunately I was blessed with three sons so it never came up.

Moss

RaymondLin said:

And she writes all her own music and plays the guitar. Unlike 1D.

erm...

ICBM

Some of them have co-writing credits on some of the songs too. Not sure how much of them they will have written, but enough to get a royalty from it.

RaymondLin

Moss said:

RaymondLin said:

And she writes all her own music and plays the guitar. Unlike 1D.

erm...

So I was bored and curious about the writing.....and looked on wikipedia and made a table.

And I also added up how many writers they worked with.

Taylor Swift - 17

One Direction - ...I'll just list them...lol

Rami Yacoub

Cark Falk

Savan Kotcha

Steve Mac

AugustRigo

Jamie Scott

Matt Squire

Kelly Clarkson

Tom Meredith

Shep Solomon

Toby Gad

Lindy Robbins

Tom Fletcher

Steve Robson

Wayne Hector

RedOne

BeatGeek

Jimmy Joker

Teddy Sky

Achraf Hannusi

Alaina Beaton

Paul Meehan

Shellback

Kristian Lundin

Kristoffer Fogelmark

Albin Nedler

Ed Sheeran

Fiona Bevan

Julian Bunetta

John Ryan

Alan Grigg

Sam Hollander

Peter Svensson

Lukasz Gottwald

Henry Walter

Danny Jones

Dougie Toynter

Robert Conin

Alexander Horan

Tebey Ottoh

Tommy Lee James

Peter Wallevik

Theodore Geiger

Jacknife Lee

Gary Lightbody

Ed Drewett

Ruth-Anne Cunningham

Ali Tamposi

Oliver Frank

S. Page Mehner

Maureen McDonald

Johan Carlsson

ICBM

You're even more of a geek than me . If anything that's slightly more writing than I expected from them.

If you can be bothered, do the same for the Monkees . They were also much derided in their day for being a contrived 'band' with their own TV show marketing machine, but in the end they became a bit more respected and did write and play more of their own material. I'm not saying it's an exact comparison but it seems a reasonably fair one, to me.

You could say 1D have given a lot of work and a lot of money to a lot of songwriters and professional musicians in much the same way, too…

To be honest the main thing I don't like about them is Simon Cowell, but… whatever. There are probably worse people than him in the music industry.

stickyfiddle

RaymondLin;654526" said:

Moss said:



RaymondLin said:

And she writes all her own music and plays the guitar. Unlike 1D.





erm...












So I was bored and curious about the writing.....and looked on wikipedia and made a table.





And I also added up how many writers they worked with.

Taylor Swift - 17One Direction - ...I'll just list them...lol

Rami YacoubCark FalkSavan KotchaSteve MacAugustRigoJamie ScottMatt SquireKelly ClarksonTom MeredithShep SolomonToby GadLindy RobbinsTom FletcherSteve RobsonWayne HectorRedOneBeatGeekJimmy JokerTeddy SkyAchraf HannusiAlaina BeatonPaul MeehanShellbackKristian LundinKristoffer FogelmarkAlbin NedlerEd SheeranFiona BevanJulian BunettaJohn RyanAlan GriggSam HollanderPeter SvenssonLukasz GottwaldHenry WalterDanny JonesDougie ToynterRobert ConinAlexander HoranTebey OttohTommy Lee JamesPeter WallevikTheodore GeigerJacknife LeeGary LightbodyEd DrewettRuth-Anne CunninghamAli TamposiOliver FrankS. Page MehnerMaureen McDonaldJohan Carlsson

Also would noting that 1D have done that in, what, 5 years? While Ms Swift has been writing and selling music for about 15...

RaymondLin

It's a lot easier when people come to you with material and all you need to do is sing and with Cowell backing you. Taylor signed for Big Machine Records which is a nobody.

usedtobe

Doesn't leave much room for the boys input, I'd have thought..

Dave_Mc

RaymondLin said:

It's a lot easier when people come to you with material and all you need to do is sing and with Cowell backing you. Taylor signed for Big Machine Records which is a nobody.

Also I believe TS wrote for other people before she got famous, and was one of the youngest people hired as a songwriter...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift#2004.E2.80.9308:_Career_beginnings_and_Taylor_Swift

"...Swift became the youngest songwriter ever hired by the Sony/ATV Tree publishing house.^[46]"

RaymondLin

Dave_Mc said:

RaymondLin said:

It's a lot easier when people come to you with material and all you need to do is sing and with Cowell backing you. Taylor signed for Big Machine Records which is a nobody.

Also I believe TS wrote for other people before she got famous, and was one of the youngest people hired as a songwriter...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift#2004.E2.80.9308:_Career_beginnings_and_Taylor_Swift

"...Swift became the youngest songwriter ever hired by the Sony/ATV Tree publishing house.^[46]"

She did, and was on a "development deal" which she chose not to renew when she was 15 and went on her own.  Those are the same kind of deal those Disney kids are on and hoping to get picked up and get a record contract.  She then went to play in bars around Nashville before being spotted.

The caveat is that her dad put up $100k as capital into Big Machine to get it started, but then again, there are tones of artist with massive label back that don't last longer than 6 months before they disappear into the abyss.  

ICBM

timmysoft said:

You're so behind @ICBM ! The latest single is Bad Blood, another great pop track.

Hmmm. I've now heard this one, and sadly it's dire. Awful lyrics and pretty much the same as one of her previous ones… can't remember exactly which.

Style is still a great song though.

RaymondLin

I skip bad blood every time it comes on the iPod. There are 10 other tracks that are better on the album.

Dave_Mc

ICBM said:

timmysoft said:

You're so behind @ICBM ! The latest single is Bad Blood, another great pop track.

Hmmm. I've now heard this one, and sadly it's dire. Awful lyrics and pretty much the same as one of her previous ones… can't remember exactly which.

Style is still a great song though.

all her new songs sound the same to me. she's started working with more and more professional songwriters (possibly also ones who work with other current pop stars) and is sounding more and more like generic modern pop (IMO). I dunno why either, I mean she wrote plenty of good songs herself.

imalrightjack

What I find amusing is that Britain's main country music magazine (Maverick) championed Taylor Swift as a 'country singer', which I don't believe she ever was in any credible way. I couldn't wrap my head around this at the time. And then she f***ed off to be a pop star.