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Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
The only way to fix that is a closer political union, I.e the ability to set tax rates, pension ages, etc, etc.
Which as usual only means taxes/ages go up.
If the answer is no then leave now as our influence will diminish overtime and we'll be shackled to economically stagnant bloc that increasingly can't make decisions. The real power is in the Euro zone. We are not members, so when the economic rules are being discussed we have to leave the room. The EU is aiming for closer fiscal union (harmonisation of tax rates, budgets and so forth) and political union (EU army, seat at the security council, foreign minister) - I don't want that either.
If you want the Euro then campaign to join the Euro zone. At least we'd have a seat at the top table. But look at Europe. Greece has been treated appallingly and people are in poverty. Youth unemployment is running at 25% in some countries and growth is stagnant. Countries with the Euro can't react to the economic problems in their country as they're shackled to an inflexible currency/economic model. I don't want the UK to end up like Greece or Spain.
To most people the EU means two things. freedom of movement and free trade. If we had those elements then my guess is most people would be happy. I'm for a free trade deal that allows us to cut our own deals with other countries and I'm not fussed about freedom of movement - I'm happy to keep it with some basic protection. I think the benefits of free movement outweigh the downsides.
I want our parliament to set our laws and our courts to uphold the law along with the ECHR. The growth in the world economy will be in Asia - an independent UK can prosper IMHO.
The EU is not all bad, but the above are my major reasons for wanting to leave.
Remember, it's easier to criticise than create!
I don't see that we would have been forced to take the Euro if we have managed to avoid it for the last 15 years.
Nor me, but what I didn't want was to become just another state in a United States of Europe. I simply don't want ever-closer integration.
I'm not anti-immigration, far from it, and I like being able to travel freely myself. Conversely, I don't think that leaving would affect us as badly economically as the doomsayers were making out.
I was a borderline voter for a good while, and only really made up my mind to vote Leave in the week running up to the referendum.
The reason I now regret my vote is because of who I've aligned myself with, without realising that I was doing so. If you drew a venn diagram of mine and Farage's politics there would be the tiniest overlap that said "don't want closer integration", but other than that I find UKIP politics abhorrent.
I did think about this a lot before voting, and I thought about those people I know from the EU in this country and my Brit friends in the EU. What I couldn't do was vote Remain just because of their circumstances if my conscience was telling me to vote Leave.
I would vote Remain if I had the chance again, and then fight closer integration as a separate battle if and when it came up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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As far as I can make out the uk is Goldilocks, it's too hot, or too sweet, or whatever, well now it seems we get to watch the bears eating the porridge from outside the window.......hoping we can pay through the nose for the scraps at the end.
I just saw the potential affect the change would have on my family.
Seriously if I lose my gf I'll never get another that hot again, I'm seriously punching above my weight there!!!!!
So the 'bating thread comes later then.
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
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