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Some people like musicals, I rarely do.
I always think it's a shame when an outstanding album contains tracks that you end up skipping when listening, either because they are not as good, or just spoil the mood. The Wall has quite a few.
Personally I think that "Money" is a good track, but is an interruption of the mood and style of the rest of the material, same with Have a cigar on WYWH
Worst one I can recall is Wishbone Ash, I think the Album "Just Testing" is a real gem, but the track "Pay the Price" sounds like a B side from a different era, dropped in to disturb the mood
But I’m sure any Who fans will disagree, as much as the Floyd fans do with those who don’t get it...
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His dad who started the war as a conscientious objector, then joined up only to be killed in action.
I can't help thinking that if I'd grown up without a dad because of a war, I'd have very strong, very mixed feelings about war too.
Granted, the fact that something matters to somebody doesn't magically enable them to make great art out of it, but IMO if you can't listen to When The Tigers Broke Free and at the very least understand where Waters is coming from, you're dead inside.
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
The first movies with sound would have been utterly mindblowing at the time, but watching them now, the context of them being so different to what came before is lost, and while a good story that's well acted and well directed will always be a good story, it will still come across as a bit naff because the flickering, incorrect speed and scratchy sound will always be a barrier to most people.
Personally, while there are certain songs by PF that I like (ABITW part 2, or whichever one has the "Hey! Teacher!" bit in was on a compilation album when I was a kid and so I have fond memories of that particularly), and Gilmour is a great guitarist, I find that listening to an album is generally at best an unmemorable experience - it all sounds good, but afterwards nothing really sticks. At worst, it's just nonsense.
I feel like I "should" like Pink Floyd, but I've had the same thing with the Stones, the Who, Traffic, Free, Yes, Neil Young, and countless other artists - there's almost always some good, or even great stuff, but - particularly with bands that have been around for years - there's always a ton of stuff that just doesn't work for me. Bob Dylan is another one - Blonde on Blonde is regularly cited as one of the greatest albums of all time, but I just don't get it.
I still think they're great (well the "middle bit". Similar to Bowie in that respect IMO) but I've not really listened to them for ages. Probably listened to them too much back in the day. A lot of it I find a bit depressing now too.
There's some really good music there though. There's a lot of stuff that is more important as part of the story as it is as cool music. I mean the wall is part of the movie IMO. There's some beautiful stuff on it but a fair bit of weird shit too.
In a funny way things have come full circle in that I remember as a kid we listened mostly to singles, this was back in the 1960's, then everyone started becoming "progressive" and it was all about 20 minute tracks and endless drum solos. When cassettes became all the rage it was so hard to fast forward/rewind, we got into the habit of just listening to recorded LP's in their entirety. Digital technology put an end to all that. Now we seem to be returning to the days when people were much less loyal to bands and more selective so our playlists are like the collection of 45's we all used to have.
I find now that I listen mostly to pop songs of three minutes or less, I am fascinated and full of admiration for those songwriters who can create magic in two and a half minutes, it's a rare gift.
I don't know how many others on here have the same brain function but I can tie in most periods of my life to music, some if it contemporary and some of it that I just happened to be listening to at the time.
There is music I will not listen to again because of bad memories associated with it and there is also "happy" music which generally cheers me up.
Interesting comment, Just Testing is one of my favourite WA albums - perhaps because it's a slightly harder edged rock record - but I've never thought of it as having a particular mood and Pay the Price doesn't seem jarring to me.
1)pre-DSOTM post-Syd era
2) Syd-era
3) DSOTM to Amimals
4) Rog taking over (The Wall, Final Cut)
big gap
5) post-Rog
I love PF - but not all of their output, and certainly not really anything post Final Cut. DSOTM is probably my favourite album, but I don't listen to it all that often. Funnily enough, it has more meaning the older I've got.
At their peak, though, I still think they are up there with the best.
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I know you're only having a laugh but I've seen the same thing said quite a lot.
As for the Andrew Lloyd Webber link, that's probably more the other way round since Phantom came after Meddle....
Pretentious wank, much as I like certain eras of Pink Floyd, it's hard to argue against that!
Eton costs about fifty grand a year. It's the parents who pay, surely. Young Henry goes where he's told to go. Unless, whilst at school, he manages to earn enough to pay for his own fees in which case I say "bravo young Henry", he's clearly got something about him.
And if public school boys want to get involved in rock music then good for them. It's not confined to people growing up with the arse hanging out of their trousers.
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