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I hadn’t thought of the additional pickup/volume pedal option with extra paths. Might have to give that a go during the week.
Also a good point. I’m definitely going to have build some presets this week. Even after 6 years of owning my LT, l’m still learning and helix is still excellent!
- From the Split > A/B block, press and hold Knob 1 (Route To).
- Press Knob 6 (Learn Controller) and then the stomp switch you want to assign it to.
Bypassing any Split block acts as if the signal feeds both stereo paths evenly—so, a default Split > Y with both Balances set to Center.- From the Split > A/B block, tap and hold an unused stomp switch.
- Press Knob 6 (OK).
You now effectively have a dual A/B/Y switch; one for A/B and the other for Y.I'm interested in how other products might do this better. I suppose the Split block could be A/B by default and it could be auto-assigned to a switch, but that's rarely how our customers use split blocks—most just want simple parallel paths.
When you turn a split off, the intuitive behaviour would be to behave as if there was no split block at all. "turning a split off turns it into a perfect Y splitter" is just really odd.
Also - your instructions (push knob 1,etc) work for the hardware units but I'm working in Native so there's no clues on the screen about sensible things to assign.
Its fine, and I've worked it out now, so no big problem. But for a product that has so many great UI features this one definitely could be improved IMO.
If someone's created an easier method to create a virtual A/B/Y box (or has an original idea that no one's done yet), I'm all ears. Again, the vast, vast majority of Split block usage is to simply create even, parallel stereo paths (Y type) and anything trickier will need to either A) abide by the same rules as other blocks, or B ) support some inconsistent but perhaps slightly more discoverable method. For better or worse, we chose A.
Other companies have done the whole tap-tap-tap-tap-swipe-open-tap-tap-close-tap-tap-tap assignment thing, and while the procedure may be a bit more discoverable at first, it quickly becomes a massive slog and disincentivizes people from assigning things often. We'd rather have a shallow learning curve at first, but once learned, the user can then assign anything in three seconds. Not unlike Logic's workflow on a Mac vs. that of GarageBand on an iPhone.
Just providing the reasoning behind our design. Again, there's always room for improvement.
And I honestly wasn't having a go before, but if you're claiming that the functionality of "turning a split function off makes it into a perfect Y splitter" is intuitive then I'm afraid I'm in violent disagreement.
Eqd Speaker Cranker clone
Monte Allums TR-2 Plus mod kit
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Eqd Speaker Cranker clone
Monte Allums TR-2 Plus mod kit
Trading feedback: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/60602/
I don't see how that is different to a "Y" split.
ie. if you insert a block that can switch/split/mix a signal between two paths then what else would you do when you turn the block off other then send the input equally to both output paths?
Eqd Speaker Cranker clone
Monte Allums TR-2 Plus mod kit
Trading feedback: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/60602/
but you have introduced to create two paths right?? so by your thinking, turning it off should favour path A??
is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
The way it works at the moment, if you have a split block that splits the signal perfectly between A and B paths, and then turn it off, then nothing happens. The output is identical. Anyone who claims that as intuitive has a brain that differs greatly from mine.
And wouldn't life be frightfully dull if the spoken word had to be interpreted literally at all times? God forbid we use hyperbole or idiom to inject any interest to a discussion.