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boogieman · June 16

Just finished Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live. A stand alone Rick and Michonne sequel.

Unless you’re
A. a massive completist
B. a WD freak or
C. a masochist
my advice is don’t bother, as it’s an utter and total crock of shit.

EricTheWeary · June 16

Started on Fallout on Prime. Not sure it's really me but if you've got a big telly and want something that looks nice and isn't a nature documentary might be something to go for. There is quite a strong sense of humour so every time I think nah there's a joke and it lifts me through the next twenty minutes.

Kurtis · June 19

New Rick and morty on Netflix!

CavemanGrogg · June 19

Brio said:

CavemanGrogg said:

Started watching Elementary again the other night.

A great show. I massively preferred it to Sherlock.

I think it's a brilliant take on the original stories, I just don't think it's as good as the series made by Granada Television starring Jeremy Brett. For me what lets it down is:

The cinematography - Holmes solves a hell of a lot of cases by pulling evidence out of thin air

The lack of recurring characters - Ms Hudson for example is a staple of the stories, she's in just about every story, yet in Elementary I think she is in 2 maybe 3 episodes.

Despite Sherlock and his father's claims that his - Sherlock's, needs are simple - a clean collar and a loaf of bread, unlike the originally stories where his wealth and means of support are self earned through his ''work'', in Elementary, he's an extremely obvious ''trust fund kid'' slumming it with extremely expensive tastes - his scarf for example costs over USD$500 his watch is a Frank Muller Round with Arabic numerals a watch that costs over USD$15k his shoes are all by John Varvatos not just the two tone boots all cost a grand if not more and it's the same with his clothing everything he wears is luxurious designer labels even his casual t-shirts and peabody coat.

I'm rewatching it, not just because I don't want to start something ''new'' - as in new to us that none of us have seen before, while the girlfriend is away working on the Isle of Man, but because it's a show that despite my ''complaints'', I really enjoy, even on a second viewing.

Timcito · June 19

CavemanGrogg said:

Brio said:

CavemanGrogg said:

Started watching Elementary again the other night.

A great show. I massively preferred it to Sherlock.

I think it's a brilliant take on the original stories, I just don't think it's as good as the series made by Granada Television starring Jeremy Brett.

That has to be among the biggest understatements of the year!

CavemanGrogg · June 19

Timcito said:

CavemanGrogg said:

Brio said:

CavemanGrogg said:

Started watching Elementary again the other night.

A great show. I massively preferred it to Sherlock.

I think it's a brilliant take on the original stories, I just don't think it's as good as the series made by Granada Television starring Jeremy Brett.

That has to be among the biggest understatements of the year!

Jeremy Brett was truly amazing as Sherlock Holmes, he was so good as Holmes, that he not only made the role his, but any time people picture Holmes, they picture Jeremy Brett in his dear stalker, despite Holmes never wearing one in any of Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories, which all but one of the episodes was faithfully based on - the episode where Holmes and Watson go on holiday to the seaside for Holmes to get a much needed rest and quit his drug habit which was only made because Granada was not prepared for how popular the show would be or how young an audience it would appeal to

CaseOfAce · June 20

James Blunt - One Brit Wonder NETFLIX - it's a sort of companion piece to the On The Road with James Blunt book - which remains the best account I've read of what it's like to be on a tour bus and going from arena to arena for 15 months and the city stops in between.

Interesting doc - warts and all - it sounds like the first tour was basically a 2 year stag do.
It's not the most glamourous of lives - I take it you have to be the sort of person who can adapt to basically living in a bubble, hanging around in strip lit windowless rooms backstage before piling onto a coach post gig and driving thru the night to the next city / rinse / repeat. Certainly not for me.

He details the posh upbringing, the Kosovo stuff and the unpleasant backlash he suffered from a lot of people who should have know a lot better.

There is an interesting moment on Isle of Man. A middle aged woman is star struck on meeting him on the seafront. Blunt asks if she is coming to the show that night. Nope! Rather bizarre.

He's certainly leaned into the funny, self aware charmer persona. I think he does kinda reveal a little too much sunlight here on the mystique of stardom - but ... interesting.

BigBearKris · June 20

Is anyone watching "Dark Matter" with Jennifer Connely and Joel Edgerton? I think it's brilliant, even if a bit silly.

bobblehat · June 20

Just finished Series 3 of The Boys just in time for 4 . Homelander still creeps me out.

Timcito · July 1

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

BigBearKris · July 1

Timcito said:

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

What??

fretmeister · July 2

Timcito said:

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

Dafuq are you on about?

rlw · July 2

Douglas is cancelled. ITV. Managed 15 minutes of the first episode and gave up.

Timcito · July 2

fretmeister said:

Timcito said:

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

Dafuq are you on about?

Not sure what's so confusing, or maybe the crude response simply serves to express some hostility. Whatever, I'll try to speak a little more 'slowly.'

What I was suggesting was that the choice to include an obese actor as Donny's stalker raises an issue that is quite surprising given current feelings about fat-shaming and increased sensitivity. When Martha first declares that she is a lawyer, Donny instinctively laughs. Why? Would he have laughed had she been slim and attractive? I don't think so. And when she then starts nosing in on his life and making suggestive remarks to him, at least part of the discomfort, I think, is that as a fairly typical bloke about town, he has no romantic feelings whatsoever for someone obese, and he finds her feelings for him embarrassing and uncomfortable.

Someone might say the producers picked an actor who 'just happened to be fat.' I do not think that's a plausible response. Her weight is the two-ton elephant in the room, in more than one sense! I think as Male hetero viewers, we share his revulsion: no way would we want any kind of romantic liaison with a woman who looked like that!

That's why I think the choice of an obese actor to play Martha is quite a brave one. It forces at least the male viewer to recognize certain uncomfortable truths about himself. I think we very much identify with Donny in his discomfort just as we identified with Michael Douglas when 'mad bitch' Glenn Close came after him on that 80s film.

Philly_Q · July 2

^^ Without getting into whether or not anyone identifies with Donny, or anything much else about the story, they actually picked someone who looks a lot like the real person involved. Although before she came forward they were claiming she "wouldn't even recognise herself" in the character.

As for Donny being "a fairly typical bloke about town", I think you need to watch the other episodes....

Timcito · July 2

Philly_Q said:

^^ Without getting into whether or not anyone identifies with Donny, or anything else about the story, they actually picked someone who looks a lot like the real person involved. Although before she came forward they were claiming she "wouldn't even recognise herself" in the character.

Fair enough, but this is not a documentary. If it is based on real events, it is an artistic reimagining of those events, which necessarily affords flexible interpretation with regard to dramatic impact and respect for current sensibilities. In sticking with a fat woman, they inevitably stir reactions and thoughts about 'fatness.'

BluesLover · July 2

JANA on bbc iPlayer.
Scandi noir, so called because they never turn the lights on.
It's a bit far fetched but I enjoy dramas set in other countries, so perfectly watchable.

boogieman · July 3

Timcito said:

fretmeister said:

Timcito said:

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

Dafuq are you on about?

Not sure what's so confusing, or maybe the crude response simply serves to express some hostility. Whatever, I'll try to speak a little more 'slowly.'

What I was suggesting was that the choice to include an obese actor as Donny's stalker raises an issue that is quite surprising given current feelings about fat-shaming and increased sensitivity. When Martha first declares that she is a lawyer, Donny instinctively laughs. Why? Would he have laughed had she been slim and attractive? I don't think so. And when she then starts nosing in on his life and making suggestive remarks to him, at least part of the discomfort, I think, is that as a fairly typical bloke about town, he has no romantic feelings whatsoever for someone obese, and he finds her feelings for him embarrassing and uncomfortable.

Someone might say the producers picked an actor who 'just happened to be fat.' I do not think that's a plausible response. Her weight is the two-ton elephant in the room, in more than one sense! I think as Male hetero viewers, we share his revulsion: no way would we want any kind of romantic liaison with a woman who looked like that!

That's why I think the choice of an obese actor to play Martha is quite a brave one. It forces at least the male viewer to recognize certain uncomfortable truths about himself. I think we very much identify with Donny in his discomfort just as we identified with Michael Douglas when 'mad bitch' Glenn Close came after him on that 80s film.

Sorry, but that’s an awfully big assumption that the “average man” feels repulsed or uncomfortable around larger women, let alone herding every overweight woman into the “funny but sexually unattractive” group.

BigBearKris · July 3

Timcito said:

fretmeister said:

Timcito said:

skullfunkerry said:

We watched Baby Reindeer last week. Absolutely astonishing; I don't think anything u can say would do it justice. One of the hardest things to watch I've sat through, I think; I found it extremely upsetting in parts.

I watched the first three episodes last night. I agree, very intriguing and quite daring, too, I think. It does not shy away from a very uncomfortable un-PC truth: fat women are usually funny and sexually unattractive. For those who have seen the series, imagine how different that first scene in the pub would have been if Martha had been slim. .

Dafuq are you on about?

Not sure what's so confusing, or maybe the crude response simply serves to express some hostility. Whatever, I'll try to speak a little more 'slowly.'

What I was suggesting was that the choice to include an obese actor as Donny's stalker raises an issue that is quite surprising given current feelings about fat-shaming and increased sensitivity. When Martha first declares that she is a lawyer, Donny instinctively laughs. Why? Would he have laughed had she been slim and attractive? I don't think so. And when she then starts nosing in on his life and making suggestive remarks to him, at least part of the discomfort, I think, is that as a fairly typical bloke about town, he has no romantic feelings whatsoever for someone obese, and he finds her feelings for him embarrassing and uncomfortable.

Someone might say the producers picked an actor who 'just happened to be fat.' I do not think that's a plausible response. Her weight is the two-ton elephant in the room, in more than one sense! I think as Male hetero viewers, we share his revulsion: no way would we want any kind of romantic liaison with a woman who looked like that!

That's why I think the choice of an obese actor to play Martha is quite a brave one. It forces at least the male viewer to recognize certain uncomfortable truths about himself. I think we very much identify with Donny in his discomfort just as we identified with Michael Douglas when 'mad bitch' Glenn Close came after him on that 80s film.

I think your comment is ridiculous and please don't claim the knowledge of what views "male hetero viewers" may share or not.
Ask your wife/girlfriend or daughter what she thinks about your opinion as well.

sinbaadi · July 3

I've seen lots of debate over Baby Reindeer, but not the "decision" to cast an overweight actor as Martha!

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