Advice Please Guys. Sellers Hell - My Experience

tele69

danishbacon said:

So, I wrote a little rubbish song poking a bit of fun at this this whole situation because, apparently, I have nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon (my partner says I'm crazy, my kid probably does too). It's based on a vague recollection of events, fictional. No names are disclosed. It probably sounds shit because it is, and I wanted to get it out before this life-lesson of a thread got locked.

Any volunteers to play it at the next forum jam?

This sir.. is nothing short of genius! . I take a digital bow .Fantastic! Haha. Jeezo... incredible : ))))

andrewaward

I sense a benefit concert !

JerkMoans

"I packed the bits, and all of the papers.  I can't believe it, but they turned to vapours."

Utter genius.  Like Wordsworth set to a funky bassline.

Fred / @danishbacon wins the internet.  For ever.  That's it: I'm disconnecting.

BLAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Philtre

Haych

danishbacon said:

So, I wrote a little rubbish song poking a bit of fun at this this whole situation because, apparently, I have nothing better to do on a Friday afternoon (my partner says I'm crazy, my kid probably does too). It's based on a vague recollection of events, fictional. No names are disclosed. It probably sounds shit because it is, and I wanted to get it out before this life-lesson of a thread got locked.

Any volunteers to play it at the next forum jam?

Wish I could LOL, Wow and Wiz that all at the same time!

tele69

Incredible Fred... set me for the weekend man! Right.. where’s me gin. 

horse

Hats off to @danishbacon ;

WiresDreamDisasters

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

poopot

WiresDreamDisasters said:

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

^this

prlgmnr

danishbacon said:

So, I wrote a little rubbish song.... It probably sounds shit ....

It's got a lot more good elements than it has shit ones.

tony99

@danishbacon that is excellent, hat's off

Fifty9

Haha Fred.

danishbacon

Fifty9 said:

Haha Fred.

With the ObG @Fifty9 and thanks for the nice comments all. In all honesty, it’s not nice that this went down, hope @tele69 and @chris78 can sort this out amicably.

Fifty9

Great stuff Fred. Hope you enjoy it!

Kittyfrisk

danishbacon said:

Fifty9 said:

Haha Fred.

With the ObG @Fifty9 and thanks for the nice comments all. In all honesty, it’s not nice that this went down, hope @tele69 and @chris78 can sort this out amicably.

Well said, right answer.

thebreeze

WiresDreamDisasters said:

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

I'm not sure this is either fair or helpful.  Chris has been a member and contributor here for 5 years.  What do you think he's been doing, planning the great sting over the last 5 years that's finally come to fruition?  We all get things wrong from time to time.  (Some members behave disgracefully on the forum and seem to be given chance after chance and get welcomed back with open arms).

There are two sides to this and it's really up to them to settle it.  @tele69 why did you agree to the £150 refund?  This hasn't been explained.  From what we've been told the refund was only to do with condition of the guitar.  (Therefore the certificate being a bit of a red herring).  Why didn't you take the guitar back, an option which still remains available so far as we've been told?

It's probably a big mistake on my part to get involved and I don't know either of you but I think there's a difference between on the one hand trying to get helpful advice to find a fair way through this and on the other courting a witch hunt ending with people being called scammers and marched out of the forum etc.

It's important to keep the heat out of this.  I realise that @chris78 called you a liar which wasn't the best thing to do but he's come forwards (something he didn't have to do) and seems up for dialogue and resolving the situation?

(and yes, I enjoy the humour and loved @danishbacon)

ten77guitar

thebreeze said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

 (Some members behave disgracefully on the forum and seem to be given chance after chance and get welcomed back with open arms).

Mentioning no names...

TeleMaster

thebreeze said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

I'm not sure this is either fair or helpful.  Chris has been a member and contributor here for 5 years.  What do you think he's been doing, planning the great sting over the last 5 years that's finally come to fruition?  We all get things wrong from time to time.  (Some members behave disgracefully on the forum and seem to be given chance after chance and get welcomed back with open arms).

There are two sides to this and it's really up to them to settle it.  @tele69 why did you agree to the £150 refund?  This hasn't been explained.  From what we've been told the refund was only to do with condition of the guitar.  (Therefore the certificate being a bit of a red herring).  Why didn't you take the guitar back, an option which still remains available so far as we've been told?

It's probably a big mistake on my part to get involved and I don't know either of you but I think there's a difference between on the one hand trying to get helpful advice to find a fair way through this and on the other courting a witch hunt ending with people being called scammers and marched out of the forum etc.

It's important to keep the heat out of this.  I realise that @chris78 called you a liar which wasn't the best thing to do but he's come forwards (something he didn't have to do) and seems up for dialogue and resolving the situation?

(and yes, I enjoy the humour and loved @danishbacon)

Well paying for the delivery back can be of a similar cost depending on your courier, and the hassle might not be worth the difference. 

He may of spent the money already... 

There's a multitude of extremely valid reasons why taking the hit is an easier option. 

The other party doesn't seem to have the same valid reasons up until now. 

Redemption should always on the table. 

TeleMaster

@danishbacon Amazing. I laughed! 

tele69

thebreeze said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

All jokes aside, @tele69 I'm sorry this happened to you. @digitalscream IMHO, we don't want scammers here.

I'm not sure this is either fair or helpful.  Chris has been a member and contributor here for 5 years.  What do you think he's been doing, planning the great sting over the last 5 years that's finally come to fruition?  We all get things wrong from time to time.  (Some members behave disgracefully on the forum and seem to be given chance after chance and get welcomed back with open arms).

There are two sides to this and it's really up to them to settle it.  @tele69 why did you agree to the £150 refund?  This hasn't been explained.  From what we've been told the refund was only to do with condition of the guitar.  (Therefore the certificate being a bit of a red herring).  Why didn't you take the guitar back, an option which still remains available so far as we've been told?

It's probably a big mistake on my part to get involved and I don't know either of you but I think there's a difference between on the one hand trying to get helpful advice to find a fair way through this and on the other courting a witch hunt ending with people being called scammers and marched out of the forum etc.

It's important to keep the heat out of this.  I realise that @chris78 called you a liar which wasn't the best thing to do but he's come forwards (something he didn't have to do) and seems up for dialogue and resolving the situation?

(and yes, I enjoy the humour and loved @danishbacon)

I’ll try and keep this concise for I fear the fear of boredom setting in for some.: ))

First thing I did was offer a return of the guitar back to me followed by an alternative offer of a part refund... that was if he liked the guitar enough to want to keep it. 

Chris replies and said he would need ‘ a couple of hundred quid. A lot I thought tbh) however, I countered with an overly generous £150 to allow for his disappointment of the finish and for us both,  the missing certificate.. that was certainly important to me. A replacement costs. also to avoid the hassle of the return. It would mean a day off work which I couldn’t afford + postage payment etc He slept on it and accepted next day 

Whatever is thought about the certificate... there is no red herring there but I believe fishy it is to put it politely. He was adamant that it was missing... even after a thorough recheck. This is important stuff. They cost money to replace. It made me look like an incompetent fool but it was there all along. It would have been nice to be informed of its reappearance .. if indeed it was missing at all...It’s not right to me man.

i sense Chris might feel it’s too far down the line for dialogue and discussion as you’ve put it. The liar craic rankled a little bit but I’m over that....people react when they’re kicked... and I’m no different 

 My inbox is always open. 

Thanks for your kind advice and comments everyone. We all make mistakes and again, I’m no different. Always learning. 

Appreciated 
Gary