UPDATE New Marshall - 2x12 DSL40 (DSL402) (Now £399 at GuitarGuitar)

Lescaster

Musicman20 said:

What speakers do these have for £399?!?!?

I have bought one and it arrived today. The speakers say on them SPKR-00113 12" speaker 25w, 4ohm.

I'm thinking of putting a couple of greenbacks in it or maybe a heritage and a greenback, but not sure.

If anyone else has bought one and thinking of upgrading the speakers I'd love to hear your ideas.

noisepolluter

Lescaster said:

Musicman20 said:

What speakers do these have for £399?!?!?

I have bought one and it arrived today. The speakers say on them SPKR-00113 12" speaker 25w, 4ohm.

I'm thinking of putting a couple of greenbacks in it or maybe a heritage and a greenback, but not sure.

If anyone else has bought one and thinking of upgrading the speakers I'd love to hear your ideas.

I tried a Creamback H75/M65 pair in a similar Marshall 2x12 but found the combination a bit lacking in bite. Settled on an H75/Vintage 30 pair which is lovely and balanced sound wise, but obviously not practical if you’re planning to move it round much! 

Lescaster

Thanks for the info @noisepolluter I'll add those to the list!

Oh, weight's not an issue, it's mainly for annoying the neighbours!

noisepolluter

Lescaster said:

Thanks for the info @noisepolluter I'll add those to the list!

Oh, weight's not an issue, it's mainly for annoying the neighbours!

Deffo worth considering then. The Creamback H and Vintage 30 complement each other very well, and the bass is really tight and defined not boomy or muddy. 

I should add my 2x12 is wired in series as stock, so I’ve got a 2x8 ohm pair for 16 ohm total. I’ve not tried them wired in parallel at 4 ohms. @ICBM I’m sure would be able to comment on how the sound might differ. 

fastonebaz

I have a neo creamback in my dsl40cr, I think it sounds v nice.

Lodious

I have a Creamback Neo for sale if anyone is looking to lighten their combo

Lescaster

noisepolluter said:

Lescaster said:

Thanks for the info @noisepolluter I'll add those to the list!

Oh, weight's not an issue, it's mainly for annoying the neighbours!

Deffo worth considering then. The Creamback H and Vintage 30 complement each other very well, and the bass is really tight and defined not boomy or muddy. 

I should add my 2x12 is wired in series as stock, so I’ve got a 2x8 ohm pair for 16 ohm total. I’ve not tried them wired in parallel at 4 ohms. @ICBM I’m sure would be able to comment on how the sound might differ. 

That sounds perfect. I play classic/hard Rock and 80's and 90's metal and so I'm not massively keen on a soft bass tone.

I was going to keep the stock wiring loom from the amp which is also in series so I'd most likely get a pair of 8ohm speakers.

Lescaster

Thinking about it some more. I think I may add two different speakers with their own Jacks so that I have the choice of one speaker or the other, or both at the same time. The speaker out panel on the dsl40 would definitely accommodate this, for example one 16ohm in the 1x16ohm socket or 2 x 16ohm in the two 2x16 ohm Jacks.

MTJ

randella said:

Musicman20 said:

What speakers do these have for £399?!?!?

The fact that it has speakers for £399 is probably enough

You buggers are putting my bank balance in jeopardy!

I bought one last weekend. "speakers" is exactly what it has. Two generic, unbranded four ohm speakers wired in series. That said, they don't sound at all bad. The amp in better sounding than my 15w driving a Vintage 30. So I am not yet inclined to replace them. And they are light! I was worried that with two speakers it might be too heavy, but I can cart it round the house well enough and, I think, lift it into the boot for gigging (if I ever feel I am good enough to gig.)

I did chat with guitar/guitar beforehand and they incorrectly told me it had a couple of v-types in. I put them right as soon as I got it a,d took the back off, amd now the website explicitly calls them OEM speakers.  

Overall I am pleased with the amp though, really good translation of sustain. Makes up for my inadequacies when playing the clash and inspires me to play GnR (desperately telling myself I don't need a les Paul). For £399 its a bargain! 

randella

MTJ said:

randella said:

Musicman20 said:

What speakers do these have for £399?!?!?

The fact that it has speakers for £399 is probably enough

You buggers are putting my bank balance in jeopardy!

I bought one last weekend. "speakers" is exactly what it has. Two generic, unbranded four ohm speakers wired in series. That said, they don't sound at all bad. The amp in better sounding than my 15w driving a Vintage 30. So I am not yet inclined to replace them. And they are light! I was worried that with two speakers it might be too heavy, but I can cart it round the house well enough and, I think, lift it into the boot for gigging (if I ever feel I am good enough to gig.)

I did chat with guitar/guitar beforehand and they incorrectly told me it had a couple of v-types in. I put them right as soon as I got it a,d took the back off, amd now the website explicitly calls them OEM speakers.  

Overall I am pleased with the amp though, really good translation of sustain. Makes up for my inadequacies when playing the clash and inspires me to play GnR (desperately telling myself I don't need a les Paul). For £399 its a bargain! 

It's a bargain alright. £30 less than GuitarGuitar list the 20W head for!

At full price, I might have taken the hump with the no-mark speakers. For that money, who cares? You feel that someone at Marshall thought OK, we're going to fit cheap drivers in this thing - let's at least go and try a few and find some that sound decent.

At some point down the line I know I'll be putting something better in there, but for the time being I feel it sounds remarkably good with what it has.

Also don't want to rock this boat, but the amplifier does sound good with a Les Paul

MTJ

randella said

Also don't want to rock this boat, but the amplifier does sound good with a Les Paul

It's my marriage that will be rocked. "No more guitars" she said. I think I got away with it with the amp. 

randella

MTJ said:

randella said

Also don't want to rock this boat, but the amplifier does sound good with a Les Paul

It's my marriage that will be rocked. "No more guitars" she said. I think I got away with it with the amp. 

I remember years ago seeing a small art exhibit in Manchester - a guy who made ship-in-a-bottle sculptures but so small you needed a magnifier to see them. They were exquisite things, apparently he did this as he wanted to hide his hobby.

And we choose a hobby that involves expense, noise, and cumbersome black boxes. And noise.

You do wonder at times.

rockmonster

GG have them back in stock!

spev11

Im tempted to buy one and make it into a head how wide is it? Guitar Guitar dont list dimensions (that I can see)

Whitecat

"Was £729" looollloollllol

...might be the most flagrant violation of misleading price indication I've seen in some time. But the amp is still a great deal.

randella

@spev11 - without pulling the amp apart, the chassis looks to be 585mm wide. 

noisepolluter

spev11 said:

Im tempted to buy one and make it into a head how wide is it? Guitar Guitar dont list dimensions (that I can see)

There’s a JVM 205H currently in the classifieds for £425 (no connection to me)

MTJ

660mm/26”
(And 260mmm deep, 510mm/20” high)

spev11 said:

Im tempted to buy one and make it into a head how wide is it? Guitar Guitar dont list dimensions (that I can see)

Cols

Just got one of these last week.  Is very good.

For those of you who replaced the onboard speakers (and they do look a bit flimsy), what did you go for?

StefB

If anyone missed out on these Fair Deal have them in stock again at £450 this time, although they were £436 on their eBay site last week, and they have an open box example for £379 - https://www.fairdealmusic.co.uk/products/marshall-dsl402-40w-2x12-limited-edition-combo-amplifier-open-box?variant=43874964537569&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAjwyeujBhA5EiwA5WD7_cdb_cEhDQwKaWb4nup_jpFF5efT4a7lKeNo0SxXst4p8pIdW12EYBoCjPkQAvD_BwE