Which (if any) delay do I want?

monquixote

My Carbon Copy is about to go winging it's way off to a new home. 

I liked it, but it's just a little too dark for me. 

I'm starting to wonder if I just don't like delay, but I thought that about compression until I found the SP Comp.

So far I've tried:

EHX Big box DMM - Perfect sound, but too big and too unreliable 

EHX Memory Boy - Loved it for wobbly lushness, OK as a regular delay, should not have sold it.

Mad Prof Deep Blue - Liked it a lot, slightly too bright, no mod, and worked better with distortion than with clean sounds

Zoom G3 - Some good sounds, but too big and I can't get on with the workflow

WH Aqua Puss - Amazing sounding delay, but delay time too short, box quite big and not enough delay time

MXR Carbon Copy - Repeats too dark, but otherwise very good

TC Alter Ego - Too many options for live use, but sounded fairly good.

Features I need are:

About 600ms of delay (I don't want a delay with 4 seconds of delay on a pot as they are impossible to dial in)

Analogue type repeats though not too dark (ideally configurable)

Form factor ideally MXR sized or WH/Strymon Sized if it has top mounted jacks

Ideally some mod preferably on a toggle 

Things that are on my try list are:

Echo Puss or Supa Puss

Strymon El Cap - Probably too expensive for something I don't use that much

Thomann Exclusive T-Rex Delay - Seems to be a mega bargain

EHX Tap Tempo DMM - Again waaaaay too expensive

Malekko Delay

What else should I be looking at?

xSkarloey

monquixote said:

My Carbon Copy is about to go winging it's way off to a new home. 

I liked it, but it's just a little too dark for me. 

I'm starting to wonder if I just don't like delay, but I thought that about compression until I found the SP Comp.

So far I've tried:

EHX Big box DMM - Perfect sound, but too big and too unreliable 

EHX Memory Boy - Loved it for wobbly lushness, OK as a regular delay, should not have sold it.

Mad Prof Deep Blue - Liked it a lot, slightly too bright, no mod, and worked better with distortion than with clean sounds

Zoom G3 - Some good sounds, but too big and I can't get on with the workflow

WH Aqua Puss - Amazing sounding delay, but delay time too short, box quite big and not enough delay time

MXR Carbon Copy - Repeats too dark, but otherwise very good

TC Alter Ego - Too many options for live use, but sounded fairly good.

Features I need are:

About 600ms of delay (I don't want a delay with 4 seconds of delay on a pot as they are impossible to dial in)

Analogue type repeats though not too dark (ideally configurable)

Form factor ideally MXR sized or WH/Strymon Sized if it has top mounted jacks

Ideally some mod preferably on a toggle 

Things that are on my try list are:

Echo Puss or Supa Puss

Strymon El Cap - Probably too expensive for something I don't use that much

Thomann Exclusive T-Rex Delay - Seems to be a mega bargain

EHX Tap Tempo DMM - Again waaaaay too expensive

Malekko Delay

What else should I be looking at?

You're almost describing the Boss DM-2 Waza craft to a tee there. 

Jalapeno

Tried a TRex Reptile ?

Some other thoughts .... http://www.joespedals.com/acatalog/delay.html

How about getting a modded MXR ?

EricTheWeary

Never seen a Supa Puss before. I might be in love. T Rex Replay? Straightforward and fairly compact, although I get the impression it is fairly digital sounding. I have been watching Minifooger Delay videos but I think you'd find it too dark. I like that you can boost the signal, has expression pedal out ( so does the Supa Puss) and it looks nice ( in an industrial sort of way). Budda Samsara has 600 ms and tone control over the delays, it's a pretty colour and relatively cheap. No tap tempo but then you don't seem to be looking for that. EDIT: no modulation on the Budda so probably ignore that. Unless you really like the colour.

hugbot

I dont get how the TC electronic pedal had too many options, surely you just find a setting you like and leave it there? I never moved it off tape.

monquixote

hugbot said:

I dont get how the TC electronic pedal had too many options, surely you just find a setting you like and leave it there? I never moved it off tape.

Because it get's kicked and that means that it will suddenly be on some mental reverse feedback delay when I kick it on and the labels are too small for me to see standing up. 

Also it had too much delay time on the knob making it hard to dial in. 

monquixote

Jalapeno said:

Tried a TRex Reptile ?

Some other thoughts .... http://www.joespedals.com/acatalog/delay.html

How about getting a modded MXR ? 

I've been pondering this T-Rex which seems a mega bargain for £66
http://www.thomann.de/gb/t_rex_play_back.htm

EricTheWeary

Skarloey said:

monquixote said:

My Carbon Copy is about to go winging it's way off to a new home. 

I liked it, but it's just a little too dark for me. 

I'm starting to wonder if I just don't like delay, but I thought that about compression until I found the SP Comp.

So far I've tried:

EHX Big box DMM - Perfect sound, but too big and too unreliable 

EHX Memory Boy - Loved it for wobbly lushness, OK as a regular delay, should not have sold it.

Mad Prof Deep Blue - Liked it a lot, slightly too bright, no mod, and worked better with distortion than with clean sounds

Zoom G3 - Some good sounds, but too big and I can't get on with the workflow

WH Aqua Puss - Amazing sounding delay, but delay time too short, box quite big and not enough delay time

MXR Carbon Copy - Repeats too dark, but otherwise very good

TC Alter Ego - Too many options for live use, but sounded fairly good.

Features I need are:

About 600ms of delay (I don't want a delay with 4 seconds of delay on a pot as they are impossible to dial in)

Analogue type repeats though not too dark (ideally configurable)

Form factor ideally MXR sized or WH/Strymon Sized if it has top mounted jacks

Ideally some mod preferably on a toggle 

Things that are on my try list are:

Echo Puss or Supa Puss

Strymon El Cap - Probably too expensive for something I don't use that much

Thomann Exclusive T-Rex Delay - Seems to be a mega bargain

EHX Tap Tempo DMM - Again waaaaay too expensive

Malekko Delay

What else should I be looking at?

You're almost describing the Boss DM-2 Waza craft to a tee there. 

buggery bugger, I want one of those now. No modulation for the OP though?

RaymondLin

Seymour Duncan Vapor Trail, I really want to try one.

 

Check out Premier Guitar's demo.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/pedals/vapor_trail_analog_delay/

 

Delay Range: 15ms to 600ms. Actual delay time indicated by flash rate of illuminated delay time knob.

Kebabkid

A Boss DD3?

chugington

I have a Mojo Hand Recoil Delay which I have just swapped out (ironically enough) to put a Carbon Copy back on my pedalboard. The Recoil is an analog-voiced digital delay and has 550ms of delay and has a very handy tone knob to darken/brighten your repeats depending on the situation. 

not_the_dj

EricTheWeary said:

Skarloey said:

You're almost describing the Boss DM-2 Waza craft to a tee there. 

buggery bugger, I want one of those now. No modulation for the OP though?

+1 for that bugger....there was me thinking I was pedalgasfree, I forgot about those!

DarnWeight

Catalinbread Echorec

You can run it in "single head" mode, so it's not all about the multi-tap weirdness.  Lovely modulation (no external toggle, though), adjustable tone on the repeats, sits behind your natural/dry signal really, really well.  I love it, and this is coming from a confirmed Floyd agnostic.

xSkarloey

I have the Behringer near-copy (clone of a DM-3 I believe). Even for less than £20 it's great.  So for that reason I really, really want to get the Waza craft. 

GavRichList

I've heard very good things about the Vox delay lab thing. I have an Empress SuperDelay which is also incredible.... Pricey though, especially on these shores

monquixote

I'm a bit wary of some of these delays costing £200 as I'm not really a heavy delay user, but I wonder if the reason I'm not is that I don't have a really nice delay pedal.

hugbot

The delaylab is hooge though. What about the new seymour duncan one with modulation?

RaymondLin

monquixote said:

I'm a bit wary of some of these delays costing £200 as I'm not really a heavy delay user, but I wonder if the reason I'm not is that I don't have a really nice delay pedal.

Vapour Trail is like almost half that.

 

http://www.thomann.de/gb/seymour_duncan_vapor_trail_analog_delay.htm 

GavRichList

I have some very nice delays, but the DD20 remains the most convenient one on my board. I do have a board the size of an average to large dining table though.

monquixote

RaymondLin said:

monquixote said:

I'm a bit wary of some of these delays costing £200 as I'm not really a heavy delay user, but I wonder if the reason I'm not is that I don't have a really nice delay pedal.

Vapour Trail is like almost half that.

 

http://www.thomann.de/gb/seymour_duncan_vapor_trail_analog_delay.htm 

That could be a winner.

 

It's both tiny and has top mounted jacks.

steamabacus

TC Electronic Flashback mini. Three knobs, one toneprint.

You know you can edit the minimum/maximum delay time on the knob ucing the Toneprint Editor? Maybe a bit of toneprint tweaking to get what you want but, once done, it's a straightforward three knob delay adjusted perfectly for your needs.