The F1 thread

Majorscale

Yes! Take that Red Cow 

Garold86

Couldn't have happened to a nicer team.

stickyfiddle

FORZA FERRARI. Grazie Ragazzi etc etc.  And Hamilton still gets a podium with Russell right behind him.

Absolutely fabulous race even if it'd finished 2 laps earlier. 

TimmyO

TimmyO said:

Commentators all race: “blah blah Red Bull Powertrains blah blah blah”

Red Bull Powertrains:
CONK

CONK

Apologies, I forgot Gasly:

CONK
CONK
CONK 

sweepy

Ross  Brawn did say Pre-Season that it would be a balancing  act with speed and reliability 

RiftAmps

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

markr76

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

There’s that hate again. Not healthy that mate. You sound like Horner!

stickyfiddle

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

Hard to argue. Merc will sort it and be quick, it's a question of when. 

CL is a more complete driver than Max imo - 95% of the aggression but twice as much common sense and calm under pressure. I can't wait to see him win more.

TimmyO

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

I don’t think anyone thinks anything other than that re Merc do they? 

RiftAmps

markr76 said:

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

There’s that hate again. Not healthy that mate. You sound like Horner!

I bash all shit-performing teams, not just Merc! Don't get me started on AM...Stroll Sr has gone full Claire Williams

stickyfiddle

It's McLaren I'm actually feeling most concerned for. Ricciardo must be looking at a last year before retirement, and I'm guessing Norris is going to be re-checking his contract's performance clauses...

Fretwired

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

CL looking like a WC already...a calm, stable drive, and aggressive when needed...just what F1 needs

But that was down to strategy - the hard tyre was the wrong choice and cost Mercedes loads of time. Merc is off the pace but they are not that slow - comfortably the third-fastest team behind Ferrari and Red Bull.

RiftAmps

Fretwired said:

RiftAmps said:

It was still an awful performance from Merc, on average 1sec slower than Ferrari on race pace. Without both the SC and RB failures they would have finished VERY far behind (40sec behind the leader before SC came out). You can't wash over that with a lucky podium, that's the undeniable truth.

But that was down to strategy - the hard tyre was the wrong choice and cost Mercedes loads of time.

Yes, a shit strategy, a big team mistake, let's not forget that just because they scored a podium. We should be holding them to a higher standard, such as that of an 8-time world championship team, maybe?

stickyfiddle said:

It's McLaren I'm actually feeling most concerned for. Ricciardo must be looking at a last year before retirement, and I'm guessing Norris is going to be re-checking his contract's performance clauses...

Nah, Norris will hang on for a year or two before jumping ship if they don't manage to sort it. Why would he give up that pay massive pay cheque?

stickyfiddle said:

CL is a more complete driver than Max imo - 95% of the aggression but twice as much common sense and calm under pressure. I can't wait to see him win more.

He doesn't have the raw pace of Max or Lewis, but arguably more rounded than both I think.

fretmeister

stickyfiddle

Oof Lando sounds pretty lost for words. 

@fretmeister even as a McLaren fan that was a proper hearty lol

fretmeister

stickyfiddle said:

Oof Lando sounds pretty lost for words. 

@fretmeister even as a McLaren fan that was a proper hearty lol

I'd love them to do well too - but I had the same reaction!

musicegbdf

Love to see horners face.
We done Ferrari . Got out of Jail for Merc. Nice one for Haas who needs a Russian .   
Merc have a lot of work to do , as does RB before next week. 
I wonder if RB suffered from vibration with a chassis that is too stiff . 

Fretwired

stickyfiddle said:

It's McLaren I'm actually feeling most concerned for. Ricciardo must be looking at a last year before retirement, and I'm guessing Norris is going to be re-checking his contract's performance clauses...

I can see Norris at Mercedes with Russell. I think Hamilton has a couple of years left - he wants to win 8 F1 Championships then he'll quit IMHO.

Red Bull could have a major issue - it's not that easy to set up an engine manufacturing facility from scratch. And Max's expletive-ridden rants when the red mist descends won't help his driving style - the new tyres seem to need looking after, something Perez is very good at doing.

euan

Honda is still doing the manufacturing in Japan. 

Fretwired

euan said:

Honda is still doing the manufacturing in Japan. 

Honda is making the engine until the end of 2022 but RB is responsible for installation and the associated gubbins including the eco fuel bit.